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Old Today, 07:25 AM
 
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The presence of illegal immigrants on a border state undoubtedly drives up the Trump vote, so it is a big negative, not a plus for any Democrat. Don't expect them to line up at the polls waiting for free chickens after making that trek. The last thing people like that need or want is exposure. Aside from that, Mexicans in general are rather conservative and family oriented, industrious and very entrepreneurial, great qualities for a traditional Republican (and the party has always had a toehold in the Mexican American vote, even after all of the race baiting).

This crazy idea about illegals being recruited into the Democratic party reminds me of those Catholics who used to think that Mexican immigration would save the church from plummeting membership, only to see that the larger percentage of Latin American immigrants were practically unchurched already and many joined Pentecostal and other Protestant churches after arrival. Perception misses reality bigly.

You of all people know that aliens don't vote, legal or illegal. Hell, more American citizens who are eligible didn't vote than voted for either major party candidate in the last presidential election! That includes an enormous number of Hispanics. If we were to count the 'no' votes as a choice, the group that supported Trump would be a distant third.

231,556,622 eligible voters

46.9% didn't vote
25.6% voted for Clinton
25.5% voted for Trump
1.7% voted for Johnson

The penalties for casting an illegal vote can be very severe (illegal immigrants could be deported after jail), the rewards virtually nil. It's like buying a lottery ticket, almost no chance of affecting the outcome and no direct benefit. BTW, newcomers to the country often have difficulty following the ins and out of American politics, coming from an experience totally different.

Perhaps you think that blatant lies and exaggerations, simplified logic, help your narrative, but it just looks silly.
Of course illegals are voting. Certainly not a lie. The only thing silly is your refusal to admit it!https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/...votes-11532183
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Old Today, 07:29 AM
 
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The biggest supporters of open borders are libertarians.
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Old Today, 07:30 AM
 
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You must be one of those people who believe borders equals racism.

Don't count on keeping thise taxes, you have a whole lot of people demanding your money, and the DNC will be taking it.
You must be one of those immigrants from non ****hole countries. Lucky you
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Old Today, 07:31 AM
 
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Of course illegals are voting. Certainly not a lie. The only thing silly is your refusal to admit it!
More right wing fake news. Trump's election commission got disbanded because they found no evidence to support that.

Of course Republicans did commit election fraud in North Carolina
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Old Today, 07:33 AM
 
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The biggest supporters of open borders are libertarians.
They aren't hypocrites on immigration like those on the right who love to benefit from illegal labor and demonize them at the same time.

GOP has a strong interest in continuing this broken system, playing in Identity politics etc to get red meat anti immigrant voters to the polls
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Old Today, 07:34 AM
 
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.....almost no chance of affecting the outcome and no direct benefit.


You only need a few hundred in Florida to swing a Presidential election in 2000, even less than that in these contested districts.

The mere presence of illegal immigrants also has an effect. Based on one estimate California will lose 5 house seats/EC votes, Texas 2, NY 1, WA 1 and Florida 1 based on the legal population. All 10 would go to red/purplish states all of which voted for Trump last election, his margin of victory increases by 14 EC votes.

If you live in one these states you have been robbed of House seat and EC vote by the illegal population.

Iowa, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania.
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Old Today, 07:38 AM
 
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Cruz and others warn Texas going Blue!

If Virginia can go blue, Texas can too.

Time to ramp up the voter suppression efforts. Git to it ...
How so? Allow millions more illegals and anchor babies?
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Old Today, 07:43 AM
 
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Rofl. Progressives can’t talk enough crap about Texas and it’s residents ... until they think we’re ripe for their picking.
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Old Today, 07:48 AM
 
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You only need a few hundred in Florida to swing a Presidential election in 2000, even less than that in these contested districts.

The mere presence of illegal immigrants also has an effect. Based on one estimate California will lose 5 house seats/EC votes, Texas 2, NY 1, WA 1 and Florida 1 based on the legal population. All 10 would go to red/purplish states all of which voted for Trump last election, his margin of victory increases by 14 EC votes.

If you live in one these states you have been robbed of House seat and EC vote by the illegal population.

Iowa, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania.
Care to actually cite any facts? Trump's Twitter account doesn't count
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Old Today, 07:58 AM
 
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Cruz and others warn Texas going Blue!

If Virginia can go blue, Texas can too.

Time to ramp up the voter suppression efforts. Git to it ...
Voter suppression my a**! Democrats just want to make sure that illegal aliens will be able to vote in our elections. If Texas goes blue it will be directly due to that since it is highly populated with Hispanics and many there illegally which allows their ethnic group to get more representation aka more electoral votes for Texas.
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