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View Poll Results: Who is responsible for your safety?
The government 4 6.67%
The police 2 3.33%
The politicians 0 0%
Other gun owners 0 0%
I don’t know but not me. 1 1.67%
I am responsible for the safety of my family and myself. 53 88.33%
Voters: 60. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-09-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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Ideally, the politicians, the government, law enforcement, fire fighters, etc. Practically speaking, I would say friends and family members are the most-immediate entities responsible for one's safety.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Would you say that people who are schizophrenic are irresponsible? Somebody who has used a gun to commit a crime in the past? Somebody who has harmed children in the past?
To add to that:

Someone who has written a manifesto talking about how he's going to shoot up the Hispanic population at a Walmart?

Someone whose grandmother has alerted the police that he is planning a mass shooting?
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:57 AM
 
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Collective society.
??? They are WHY I have guns!
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Two people voted for the government. LOL.
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Old 08-09-2019, 10:00 AM
 
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Nope. I'm tired of hearing gun guy freak out over people taking his guns. The most tired talking point there is.
Just like the talking points promoting gun bans.
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Old 08-09-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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It’s a combination of government which includes police, fbi, homeland security, fda etc and yourself.
Can you sue them for compensation when they fail to protect you?

If not, they aren’t responsible for your safety.
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Old 08-09-2019, 11:09 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I would say the 2nd amendment is even more anachronistic than I had previously perceived it.
It is to be expected, since most Americans are victims of the world's greatest propaganda ministry, and are loathe to read their own laws and history.
“It may be laid down, as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every citizen who enjoys the protection of a free government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defense of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency.”


- - - George Washington; "Sentiments on a Peace Establishment" in a letter to Alexander Hamilton (2 May 1783); published in The Writings of George Washington (1938), edited by John C. Fitzpatrick, Vol. 26, p. 289.
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Old 08-09-2019, 11:09 AM
 
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Ideally, the politicians, the government, law enforcement, fire fighters, etc. Practically speaking, I would say friends and family members are the most-immediate entities responsible for one's safety.
Can you sue them for compensation when they fail to protect you?

If not, they aren’t responsible for your safety.
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Old 08-09-2019, 11:15 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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None of my property is responsible for purposefully killing 14,000 people per year.
None of my property is either and I'm armed for bear.
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Old 08-09-2019, 11:16 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I don't have the fear so it can't be reduced.

By the way, I'm not knocking the fear of being attacked, I'm knocking the fear of having your guns taken away.
If you don't have fear, why are you here in fear arguing that you fear other peoples guns.
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