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Old Yesterday, 06:50 AM
 
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i don’t blame them for booing.
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Old Yesterday, 07:06 AM
 
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Farmers are going broke, losing their farmers, committing suicide, ... and he's making lame jokes?

What is wrong with the man?
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Old Yesterday, 07:28 AM
 
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Sonny Perdue, is he the chicken guy?
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Old Yesterday, 07:30 AM
 
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China is now contracting with Russian farmers for soybeans.

Which is likely what this was all about from the get go.
Comrade trump trying to make Russia Great again?
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Old Yesterday, 09:21 AM
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Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Liberals are usually against big agricultural, corporate farms, Monsanto, pesticides and the like. Plus farmers are usually deplorables.

Shouldn't not spraying pesticides and fertilizers on millions of acres of land, not to mention the thousands of gallons of diesel used in the process, just to sell some lousy soybeans to China be a good thing for the environment?
I'm all for farmers not doing those things.

But that's not the same as saying that farmers should go out of business. For one thing, farmland being paved over for suburbs and industrial parks is NOT an improvement. For another, I'd think even a conservative could recognize that it is not in the national interest to drive farmers out of business.

Soybeans are America's second largest cash crop. And until Trump started making noises, China was the largest buyer. We're not talking pocket change here.
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Old Yesterday, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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It's not how "liberals" feel about it that's the issue. It's how the FARMERS feel about it - and how they feel about TRUMP. So far, they are still hanging with him, but if the trade war doesn't end soon - and it's looking like it probably won't - those farmers will probably not be so loyal to Trump anymore. His policies are destroying their livelihood.

Ken
What livelihood, farmers have become greedy selfish people.

They don't feel any loyalty to their country, only how much money they can stack up. They have corporatized their farms by specializing in one or two crops and mass producing them for massive supplier across the world.

Its their fault they become reliant on one buyer, they're not like the Yeoman farmers of old who had diversified crop fields and sold to many different buyers locally and used the rest as food.

Farmers need to change their practices or die. They're not poor people, they drop 700 grand on the latest tractor and then get pounded by debt. Maybe they should try buying less stuff and living with less.
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Old Yesterday, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Boston
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one thing we do know.

farmers aren't voting for a progressive.
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Old Yesterday, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Farmers are going broke, losing their farmers, committing suicide, ... and he's making lame jokes?

What is wrong with the man?
No their not, farming is a lucrative business, they make more than enough money to get by.

But they're greedy, spend more on expensive farming equipment they don't need, specialize their crop field eroding soil, and sale internationally to wholesale buyer rather than locally.

I don't feel bad for them at all. The poor rural people you're thinking about are factory workers, truck drivers, and small town business owners, not large scale industrial farmers.
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Old Yesterday, 10:36 AM
 
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Not too funny but...

I like this one: "How many Liberals does it take to screw in a light bulb? Answer: None. They expect the government to do it for them."
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Old Yesterday, 10:38 AM
 
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Will soybean farmers be in the permanent dole like corn farmers?
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