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At this point, it feels like watching cricket for the first time. Every time you think you have a grasp on what's happening, a different rule is brought up, something takes place to great fanfare that you wouldn't have thought important, the explanations just make it worse and in the end, you resign to just enjoying the spectacle and plan on asking who won afterwards.
To those unfamiliar with the more Byzantine aspects of UK Parliamentary procedure.
Yesterday's vote was a vote to allow a vote. That vote (for the bill) will take place today. If it is passed by the House of Commons.
1. The new bill still needs to be approved by the House of Lords. Any filibuster there will scupper it.
2. Royal assent is then required for the bill to be made law. The PM has the option to delay that process until prorogration.
3. Even the finalized bill is (apparently) not legally binding until the Queen's Speech on October 14th.
The PM can simply choose to sit on it until the deadline, which would not be sufficient time for a vote of no confidence. Or he could argue that the bill is null and void because it doesn't address the EU's April 2019 conditions for an extension to Article 50.
Boris plans to throw Winston Churchill's grandson out of the Conservative Party for not blindly following him.
Seems to me that Brits narrowly approved BREXIT with a majority liking the concept of leaving the EU. There however has never been an actual exit plan put forth by anyone that a majority supports. That is the problem.
Once again a government not doing the will of the people.
Shocker.
Not necessarily.
They know the people wanted out of the EU, they also know something of the likely effects of the move.
To borrow an analogy, it's like landing an airplane. They have to work with pitch and yaw for a safe landing with a minimum of disruption. Boris wants to crash land, they are not going to let him do that without a fight. It's part of the process.
To those unfamiliar with the more Byzantine aspects of UK Parliamentary procedure.
Yesterday's vote was a vote to allow a vote. That vote (for the bill) will take place today. If it is passed by the House of Commons.
1. The new bill still needs to be approved by the House of Lords. Any filibuster there will scupper it.
2. Royal assent is then required for the bill to be made law. The PM has the option to delay that process until prorogration.
3. Even the finalized bill is (apparently) not legally binding until the Queen's Speech on October 14th.
The PM can simply choose to sit on it until the deadline, which would not be sufficient time for a vote of no confidence. Or he could argue that the bill is null and void because it doesn't address the EU's April 2019 conditions for an extension to Article 50.
We have a similar way of doing things in the US Government.
Looks like Johnson is going to attempt to call for a new Election, but he will have to have a 2/3’s Majority Vote and won’t get that. He wants the Election on October 15, just 4 days before the EU Extension expires. That would essentially make it too late to vote for a new extension ....... which the EU would be thrilled to grant.
Sounds like Johnson is sure his Party would win in a new Election. I read that the Brexit Party is already lining up candidates. It looks like there are only 2 ways to get a new Election. Vote for it or a Motion for No Confidence in the Government (simple majority vote) and dissolve the Government with an Election called for in a couple of weeks.
Corbyn won’t put that motion on the table .... but Johnson might. Looks like the rules and 2011 Law either of them to do it. Things are wild over there these days.
Add to all that - the EU is voting to allow their members to tap the EU Disaster Fund in case of a Hard Brexit.
That’s the Fund for serious Natural Disasters .... Germany is in a panic, they are not at all sure about what will happen next.
Well that will be confirmed or proven wrong with an election.
The will of the people the day of the Brexit vote and the will of the people NOW seems to have shifted substantially.
Who says so. You mean the usual suspects mouthing off outside the gates at 10 Downing Street. Funny how they turn up so fast every time just in time for the telly news.
I have been watching the BBC sending correspondents to towns that voted leave. What they are finding there, everywhere they go, is anger. Anger at the will of the people being thwarted.
Who says so. You mean the usual suspects mouthing off outside the gates at 10 Downing Street. Funny how they turn up so fast every time just in time for the telly news.
I have been watching the BBC sending correspondents to towns that voted leave. What they are finding there, everywhere they go, is anger. Anger at the will of the people being thwarted.
We want out.
I suspect that many of those voted in to Parliament want to be re-elected. If they feel their constituents want Brexit -- deal or no deal -- they would support these efforts.
Kind of like here and the whole repeal Obamacare. Push came to show and Republican politicians realized at their town halls that their constituents did not want a total repeal of Obamacare. They wanted solutions ot the problems it may have created or not solved but they didn't want a total repeal.
Oh I watch the BBC and ITV, and SKY -- just saying.
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