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Old 09-03-2019, 09:29 PM
 
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It seems it was not as easy as Boris thought.

British lawmakers take control: What it means for Boris, Brexit and Britain

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...brexit-1479989

The House of Commons took the unprecedented step of usurping government control of Parliament — a dramatic move that raises more questions than it answers.

The United Kingdom’s House of Commons has usurped government control of Parliament.

It’s an unprecedented step — achieved with a dramatic vote Tuesday night — that could have far-reaching ramifications for the country’s future.

The immediate goal is to stop British Prime Minister Boris Johnson from taking the country out of the European Union at the end of October without a formal deal to manage that departure — something he has repeatedly threatened to do. But the effects of the thunderous vote could be heard for years to come.

So where does Tuesday’s vote leave Boris Johnson, Brexit and Britain?

The vote means the embattled British prime minister could become the shortest-serving tenant of No. 10 Downing Street since the office was created in 1721. Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington, who famously defeated Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo, served 23 days as a caretaker prime minister in 1834.

 
Old 09-03-2019, 09:51 PM
 
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At this point, it feels like watching cricket for the first time. Every time you think you have a grasp on what's happening, a different rule is brought up, something takes place to great fanfare that you wouldn't have thought important, the explanations just make it worse and in the end, you resign to just enjoying the spectacle and plan on asking who won afterwards.
 
Old 09-03-2019, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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At this point, it feels like watching cricket for the first time. Every time you think you have a grasp on what's happening, a different rule is brought up, something takes place to great fanfare that you wouldn't have thought important, the explanations just make it worse and in the end, you resign to just enjoying the spectacle and plan on asking who won afterwards.
You nailed it.

I especially enjoy how legislators physically run across the room and take a seat with the opposing team.

BOJO has his hands full.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 02:32 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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At this point, it feels like watching cricket for the first time. Every time you think you have a grasp on what's happening, a different rule is brought up, something takes place to great fanfare that you wouldn't have thought important, the explanations just make it worse and in the end, you resign to just enjoying the spectacle and plan on asking who won afterwards.
Good the 4th Test in the Ashes series starts today at Old Trafford.

Ben Stokes FTW.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 02:36 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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It seems it was not as easy as Boris thought.

British lawmakers take control: What it means for Boris, Brexit and Britain

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...brexit-1479989

The House of Commons took the unprecedented step of usurping government control of Parliament — a dramatic move that raises more questions than it answers.

The United Kingdom’s House of Commons has usurped government control of Parliament.

It’s an unprecedented step — achieved with a dramatic vote Tuesday night — that could have far-reaching ramifications for the country’s future.

The immediate goal is to stop British Prime Minister Boris Johnson from taking the country out of the European Union at the end of October without a formal deal to manage that departure — something he has repeatedly threatened to do. But the effects of the thunderous vote could be heard for years to come.

So where does Tuesday’s vote leave Boris Johnson, Brexit and Britain?

The vote means the embattled British prime minister could become the shortest-serving tenant of No. 10 Downing Street since the office was created in 1721. Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington, who famously defeated Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo, served 23 days as a caretaker prime minister in 1834.
Johson was expected to lose the vote, however the 21 Tory rebel MP's have been expelled from the party.

Johnson has a 12 point lead in the polls, and Marxist Communist Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn is increasingly unpopular. Corbyn is a man so deluded that he refuses to condem the socialiust regime in Venezuela, a man who has shared a platform with controversial Islamic figures and groups, who is a pacifist who if Russia attacked the west would try and have a discussion with them and this is the man who has spent his whole career attacking the EU and NATO.

The truth being most people prefer a hard brexit to Corbyn.

Corbyn's support for Venezuela's Maduro 'disgusting,' says Mike Pompeo - POLITICO

By 48% to 35% Britons would rather have No Deal and no Corbyn - YouGov (Pollsters)

Nearly half of UK voters back no-deal Brexit and no PM Corbyn, poll finds - POLITICO

Brits would rather have a No Deal Brexit than let Jeremy Corbyn wreak havoc in No10, poll reveals

There have alreasdy been a number who sacrificed their careers in the Labour Party as they couldn't take any more of Corbyn's leadership and the anti-Semitism .

In terms of de-selection nobody beats Labours hard left, with some 70 Labour MP's expected to be deselected in favour of hard line left wingers in any future election. Indeed anyone who questions Corbyn will be purged, as the hard line Marxists impose their rule over Labour, and these are MP's who haven't even voted against theor own government.

Perhaps they are also making the ultimate sacrifice by claiming Corbyn is not fit to govern and being deeply troubled by anti-Semitism in the Labour Party.

70 Labour MPs including Yvette Cooper and Hilary Benn face deselection before next election - inews

Momentum announces drive to help Labour members deselect MPs - The Guardian

Labour slumps to record low in polls as 70 Labour MPs 'face sack in purge of Corbyn opponents’

Poll: Labour Party support hits record low - CityAM : CityAM

I challenged Corbyn on antisemitism a year ago. Things have only got worse - The Guardian

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Old 09-04-2019, 03:38 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I don't know much about British politics, but it appears to me they got Johnson by default after May was forced to resign.

I'm wondering if Johnson is forced to resign, will the Brits get Corbyn by default?
 
Old 09-04-2019, 05:02 AM
 
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I don't know much about British politics, but it appears to me they got Johnson by default after May was forced to resign.

I'm wondering if Johnson is forced to resign, will the Brits get Corbyn by default?
.

I believe what would happen is an election would be called for by Boris. Not sure exactly how that works, if he's able to decide that on his own or if others are involved in the decision/process.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 05:08 AM
 
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What does deselection mean?
 
Old 09-04-2019, 05:42 AM
 
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Once again a government not doing the will of the people.

Shocker.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Once again a government not doing the will of the people.

Shocker.
It's hysterical.

"If you vote, you have no right to complain."

- George Carlin

And then I get crap for being an anarchist?

C'mon folks.

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