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Old 09-20-2019, 08:46 AM
 
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Why is there such an outrage when whites depict a person of color but nothing is ever said when rolls are reversed?
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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Let's see - "face-darkening makeup" vs. "blackface or brownface", one is certainly more elegant verbiage than the other. We are talking about professional writers here, no?
LOL!

If that helps you deal with your cognitive dissonance, who am I to stop you.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:49 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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LOL!

If that helps you deal with your cognitive dissonance, who am I to stop you.


Hmmm, seems like it has regularly been called "brownface" and "blackface" when the incidents were addressed individually, so...…
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Croatia and Worldwideweb
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That was hilarious!
Completely hilarious plus dude seems to have been hoisted on his own petard.

Tucker is overreaching in calling him a racist, though. He is right about the Lemon hipocrisy.

On the other hand, Lemon might have picked up the same vibe I did, and at that moment whatever was left of his integrity went out of the window. Justin looks to me like a friend with a huge closet he never came out of. I would definitely ask for and take his fashion advice.

Not saying he is gay, just saying that is the vibe I got. Either that or he would love to leave the boring presidency, Stepford family and go hang out with RuPaul. New crazy outfit every day plus you get paid for that. Again, not saying the dude is gay.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Tucker is misrepresenting Lemon's reaction.

Lemon's only positive about Trudeau -- it was refreshing to hear a political apologize for his inappropriate behavior.

Other than that - -he said it was wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong....to do the black/brown face.

But Carlson didn't want you to see the whole story -- just what he needed to spin for a sound bite on his show.

Lemon reiterated last night that he finds it a good thing to see a leader apologize for inappropriate actions but does not defend Trudeau's behavior.
Oh, please. Maybe stop making excuses for Don Lemon.

Don Lemon (and many people on the left including many posters here in this very forum) Tore Megyn Kelly Apart Just For Talking About Blackface, Megyn Kelly NEVER wore one. All she did was argue that sometimes blackface isn’t racist — sometimes it’s meant as a tribute, not an insult — and for that, she was pilloried, attacked, and eventually fired. The Left demanded Kelly’s head on a platter for defending exactly the thing that Trudeau actually did.

These are Don Lemon's exact words “Listen, I know Megyn," Lemon said. "Sometimes you say stupid things when you’re live, but I’m just gonna be honest. Megyn is 47 years old – she’s our age. There has never been a time in that 47 years that blackface has been acceptable.”

How come he didn't say "well, it is pretty cool that she apologized" and moved the heck on too?!

Please... Let's hold these people accountable, double standard is double standard. Own it.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:55 AM
 
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Why is there such an outrage when whites depict a person of color but nothing is ever said when rolls are reversed?
Exactly.

On CBC Radio Toronto yesterday a 'brown' man (his term not mine) who said he was NOT a Trudeau supporter, but a conservative, said this whole fuss is ridiculous. The man said he has applied white make up many times when donning a costume -- most recently as Einstein -- white hair, white make up.

NOW -- honestly, meh --- we all know the historical use of black face and what it means to black people. You could argue it isn't the same.


Whatever -- the behavior was/is wrong. It does speak to racial ignorance in Canada and the USA. I would suggest that all have been in social situations where someone has used an accent to get a laugh......guess what -- that could be called racism. Do we see it as that all the time..no -- sometimes we see it as just playing around.

Maybe we need to pay better attention or maybe we need to lighten up......maybe a little of both.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Exactly.

On CBC Radio Toronto yesterday a 'brown' man (his term not mine) who said he was NOT a Trudeau supporter, but a conservative, said this whole fuss is ridiculous. The man said he has applied white make up many times when donning a costume -- most recently as Einstein -- white hair, white make up.

NOW -- honestly, meh --- we all know the historical use of black face and what it means to black people. You could argue it isn't the same.


Whatever -- the behavior was/is wrong. It does speak to racial ignorance in Canada and the USA. I would suggest that all have been in social situations where someone has used an accent to get a laugh......guess what -- that could be called racism. Do we see it as that all the time..no -- sometimes we see it as just playing around.

Maybe we need to pay better attention or maybe we need to lighten up......maybe a little of both.
We can lighten up alright. You need to scold the people from the LEFT for taking this whole "racism" thing to a completely different level.

So meh indeed, eventually, people are going to treat you the exact way you treat them. If you are on moral high horse all the time, eventually, you are going to fall if you are not 100% perfect. lol You = general term, not you personally.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:59 AM
 
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Oh, please. Maybe stop making excuses for Don Lemon.

Don Lemon (and many people on the left including many posters here in this very forum) Tore Megyn Kelly Apart Just For Talking About Blackface, Megyn Kelly NEVER wore one. All she did was argue that sometimes blackface isn’t racist — sometimes it’s meant as a tribute, not an insult — and for that, she was pilloried, attacked, and eventually fired. The Left demanded Kelly’s head on a platter for defending exactly the thing that Trudeau actually did.

These are Don Lemon's exact words “Listen, I know Megyn," Lemon said. "Sometimes you say stupid things when you’re live, but I’m just gonna be honest. Megyn is 47 years old – she’s our age. There has never been a time in that 47 years that blackface has been acceptable.”

How come he didn't say "well, it is pretty cool that she apologized" and moved the heck on too?!

Please... Let's hold these people accountable, double standard is double standing. Own it.
Because Megyn's aapology suggested that blackface was acceptable at one time. If Trudeau had done the same with his apology Lemon would have held him to the same standard.

Trudeau said that the behavior is/was wrong, unacceptable. He never suggested it was okay back in the day.

See how Carlson changed the narrative for you.

Lemon is full on biased and yes he made a big deal of the apology because he was implying Trump could never be humble and apologize.

But that's not saying Lemon was tolerant of Trudeau's black/brown face antics.

That's misrepresenting the story for Carlson to do his spin.

And if you can't admit that Carlson was spinning a tale for you -- YOU are naive -- not me.

Megyn Kelly's apology was apology for not realize that black face wasn't acceptable anymore.

That's not an apology.
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Old 09-20-2019, 09:00 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Completely hilarious plus dude seems to have been hoisted on his own petard.

Tucker is overreaching in calling him a racist, though. He is right about the Lemon hipocrisy.

On the other hand, Lemon might have picked up the same vibe I did, and at that moment whatever was left of his integrity went out of the window. Justin looks to me like a friend with a huge closet he never came out of. I would definitely ask for and take his fashion advice.

Not saying he is gay, just saying that is the vibe I got. Either that or he would love to leave the boring presidency, Stepford family and go hang out with RuPaul. New crazy outfit every day plus you get paid for that. Again, not saying the dude is gay.
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Old 09-20-2019, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Because Megyn's aapology suggested that blackface was acceptable at one time. If Trudeau had done the same with his apology Lemon would have held him to the same standard.

Trudeau said that the behavior is/was wrong, unacceptable. He never suggested it was okay back in the day.

See how Carlson changed the narrative for you.

Lemon is full on biased and yes he made a big deal of the apology because he was implying Trump could never be humble and apologize.

But that's not saying Lemon was tolerant of Trudeau's black/brown face antics.

That's misrepresenting the story for Carlson to do his spin.

And if you can't admit that Carlson was spinning a tale for you -- YOU are naive -- not me.

Megyn Kelly's apology was apology for not realize that black face wasn't acceptable anymore.

That's not an apology.
So kelly's apology is not acceptable, Justin Trudeau's apology is totally cool

Double standard indeed. To me, an apology is an apology. Kelly realized that her comment could be insensitive and apologized profusely too.
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