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View Poll Results: Is Trump's abandonment of the Kurds Betrayal or Smart?
Betrayal 123 63.73%
Smart 39 20.21%
Other 17 8.81%
Undecided 14 7.25%
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Old 10-07-2019, 05:42 PM
 
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The biggest critics of Trump's decision is from the right.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ticism-defense

Are all conservatives this obtuse?

 
Old 10-07-2019, 05:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by notnamed View Post
Trump himself admitted to having a conflict of interest with Turkey.

"I have a little conflict of interest 'cause I have a major, major building in Istanbul"
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...terest-turkey/
https://twitter.com/ivankatrump/stat...540545?lang=en
Do you have any clue about Naming Contracts?

Trump has a license with a Turkish Billionaire who built and owns a 2 Tower Building in Istanbul called "Trump Towers". It's sorta like the Dallas Cowboys play ball at AT&T Stadium but AT&T doesn't own the Stadium, didn't build the Stadium, doesn't own the Dallas Cowboys, doesn't have any say in how the Team plays or whether they win or lose ...

They have a Contract for a NAME ...... and that's all they have. It's advertising.
In the case of President Trump - his comment was from 2015 and he was acknowledging that there is a connection between him and Turkey. After his Election in 2016 ..... we all saw on National TeeVee that his Team of Lawyers displayed all the paperwork to turn Trump Enterprises (family owned conglomerate) over to his 2 sons who are NOT involved in the Federal Government. His daughter Ivanka did the same as did his Son-in-Law, Jared. Both Jared and Ivanka donate their time to the Trump Administration, as does the President himself .... NO SALARY or donated Salary in the case of President Trump.

They collectively lose many Millions of Dollars by separating themselves from the Businesses they built and donating their Time/Energy to the American People.

Remember when the Great Obama said "how much money do you really need?".
The Trump Family decided they had enough money to stop making money, pay for a Presidential Primary and then donate their time/energy to the American People.

Joe Biden is enjoying his $20,000 a month rental house and the Great Obama is enjoying his $15 Million dollar Beach house and his $8 Million dollar Washington D.C. house. Apparently -- they don't have enough Money yet and are still trying to figure out "how much they need".
 
Old 10-07-2019, 05:54 PM
 
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It appears the cluster**** otherwise known as the Trump Administration seems to be at war with itself. Trump says one thing, aides come out to keep the imbecile in chief in line. The damage has been done. The Halfwit commander in chief is doing the bidding of his lord and Master, V. Putin and destroying the reputation of the USA.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartanntp
Its a huge blunder and just another tactic to get impeachment out of the headlines... however, one ray of hope in this is that it will speed up Trump's demise.

A few more idiotic moves like this and maybe the Senate will have no choice but to jump on the impeachment wagon too.

What's next? Condemn the HK protestors or hand over more of Ukraine to Putin?
 
Old 10-07-2019, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Now he’s being criticized for being too dovish...he just can’t win..

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/pat-r...syria-pullout/
If Trump cannot win, it is because of his own hypocrisy, dishonesty and ignorance.

Dovish? Some see it otherwise.

"....Donald Trump got "rolled" by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a National Security Council source with direct knowledge of the discussions told Newsweek.

"...The U.S. withdrawal plays into the hands of the Islamic State group, Damascus and Moscow, and the announcement left Trump's own Defense Department "completely stunned," said Pentagon officials. Turkey, like the United States, wants regime change in Syria. Russia and Iran support the Assad regime...

"...President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line..."


https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-o...-spine-1463623
 
Old 10-07-2019, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Why are you singling out the Democrats?

This crisis in the making is getting opposition from the GOP too, including Mitch, Lindsay, Fox hosts and even Pat Robertson of all people!

Give it a rest with your Trump can do no wrong rationale for everything. Or maybe your agenda is like Putin's, sow havoc and division in America so Russia benefits?
What is fair for the goose is fair for the gander.. Democrats contacted 5 countries to take down Trump.. and you know it.
 
Old 10-07-2019, 05:57 PM
 
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Why is it being a 'warhawk' to help and protect a population of people whose troops have risked their lives to help the USA?

Is this how you treat your friends? Or is this just another excuse to deflect from Trump's immorality and attempt to insult President Obama at the same time?

Trump was all for the Iraq War...until the wind blew another way. Was going to drop some bombs on Iran until defense advisors Ingraham and Carlson told him it was a bad idea for re-election. And he's Freddy at the Ready to send troops to fight for the Saudis who attacked us on 9/11.
Sounds like a certain presidential candidate who recently lost an election.
 
Old 10-07-2019, 05:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TreeBeard View Post
It appears the cluster**** otherwise known as the Trump Administration seems to be at war with itself. Trump says one thing, aides come out to keep the imbecile in chief in line. The damage has been done. The Halfwit commander in chief is doing the bidding of his lord and Master, V. Putin and destroying the reputation of the USA.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartanntp
Looks like our 'GossipBlower' from the National Security Counsel strikes again. Claims to listen in on another phone call and is "anonymous". They are Leakers and anti-American, attempting to bring down the President of the United States.

Newsweek granted the National Security Council official anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

The National Security Council official compared Turkey to "playground bullies" on Monday.

"When the bigger guy [United States] moves aside in the playground, they [Turkey] get to beat on the smaller guy [Syrian Defense Forces] and this is not about the U.S. being the world police," the National Security Council source told Newsweek.

"We are telling the world, we will use you and then throw you away," the official added. "It's not like they don't have a television in Asia, in Africa, and South America."


The GossipBlower is telling the world - we will do anything at all to bring down the President we hate.
We would even force the USA into a War with Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria IF it would do the job for us.
Impeach the President.

Good Luck with that ..... I'm going out an admitted limb here and guessing that the American Citizens are not in favor of the USA bombing Turkey ..... a NATO ally (that should have been dumped the minute they sent armadas against Israel) - but of course, TeamObama supported any armada against Israel.

This is not Rocket Science -- IF the CongressCritters want WAR with Turkey, then they can say so and officially pass an Authorization of Military Force to protect the Kurds against NATO Ally Turkey.

Who REALLY thinks the Do-Nothing-Congress will do that???
Much better to just bloviate and tear down the USA and Orange Man Bad. The Hell with Foreign Policy.
 
Old 10-07-2019, 05:59 PM
 
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Please give us a reason why this is a mistake
The kurds are one of the most pro American groups in the world, more pro American than many our so called allies. This is a terrible decion, but the timing couldn't be worse. Trump needs a solid and united Republican party behind him. There is no Republican with military experience, especially in Iraq who will support this. You can't stab friends in the back.
 
Old 10-07-2019, 06:00 PM
 
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Waiting to see if Trump shifts a little his position.......there is huge backlash from this decision.
 
Old 10-07-2019, 06:01 PM
 
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And yet another right wing media spources slams Trump on this decision.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/with-fr...-s-11570488438
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