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Old 11-11-2019, 07:04 PM
 
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Most of the DACA are legally adults. But we should definitely deport the parents, with no chance of ever becoming legal.
Gleefully wanting to see families split up is some classy stuff. What would prevent policy that institutes fines and other consequences instead? You really need revenge and spite?
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:08 PM
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The DACA's homeland IS the USA. That is all they know, and often, that includes only knowing English. They grew up in the USA, many since babies.

Why should they be sent to a place they don't even know?

Blame their parents. They should go back to where their parents came from. Again, blame the parents. Not the US government.
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:08 PM
 
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Just doesn't seem right to me to allow these DACAS whether they be adults or not to benefit from their parent's law breaking. The whole family should be returned to their own homelands. It's the only fair thing to do.
So you are for punishing the families of those who commit crimes regardless of their own innocence? So why wouldn't that apply to natives? Is this what you think is justice?
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:08 PM
 
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Democrats had 3 years to offer an acceptable deal. They chose not to.

Now the Day pf Reckoning has arrived.
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:10 PM
 
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I think they should be deported. Do the children of prosecuted bank robbers get to keep the stolen money? No. This is the same. DACAs shouldn't benefit from their parents' illegal acts.
I'd rather deport you, honestly. Make America Decent Again.
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:15 PM
 
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Will someone make the popcorn please?

I am delighted this Strict Constitutionalist SC will hear this important case.
What exactly is a "Strict Constitutionalist"? Are we talking the original document with no subsequent amendments? How can you strictly follow something that is constantly changing and being interpreted in different ways? For example, for at least the first century after it was ratified, the 2nd didn't guarantee an individual right to bear arms. That interpretation came much later. Which version of the Constitution should be strictly followed?
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:17 PM
 
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Blame their parents. They should go back to where their parents came from. Again, blame the parents. Not the US government.
No, we should blame the people who lack the imagination to find practical, fair solutions that aren't cruel and spiteful. All immigration issues can be solved with win-win solutions that benefit all parties, but some people just need to see other people suffer.
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:17 PM
 
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What exactly is a "Strict Constitutionalist"? Are we talking the original document with no subsequent amendments? How can you strictly follow something that is constantly changing and being interpreted in different ways?
You stop interpreting, and read it and follow it basing decisions on what you think the signers meant it to be.

That means the literal meaning is your guide.
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:18 PM
 
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Blame their parents. They should go back to where their parents came from. Again, blame the parents. Not the US government.
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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You stop interpreting, and read it and follow it basing decisions on what you think the signers meant it to be.

That means the literal meaning is your guide.
You didn't answer the question. Which version would be acceptable? If you go with the original, there are a whole lot of amendments that get removed. More than half the US population would lose the right to vote, for example.
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