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People say these social media companies are private companies so they can do what they want, and they use this loophole to enforce social tyranny. They enjoy protections from the government that shield them from litigation however and those protections can be removed. In a vacuum the rights of private companies may be sacrosanct but we already live with a government that uses legislation to pick corporate winners and losers and right now it is empowering social media companies in ways that are not constitutionally required.
People say these social media companies are private companies so they can do what they want, and they use this loophole to enforce social tyranny. They enjoy protections from the government that shield them from litigation however and those protections can be removed. In a vacuum the rights of private companies may be sacrosanct but we already live with a government that uses legislation to pick corporate winners and losers and right now it is empowering social media companies in ways that are not constitutionally required.
It’s also how they define the narrative and convince people to vote Democrat. They simply silence any opposing voice that brings up the negatives of liberal policies. I was on another site, back when Bernie was leading, and the discussion involved the benefits of all of his Democratic Socialist policies, with liberals piling in to talk about how helpful it would be to people if they could get free health care, have their student loans forgiven, and provided UBI of $1000/month.
I brought up the prohibitive cost of all these programs, especially giving everyone $12,000 a year, and my post was deleted. I then took a different approach, suggesting it was unfair to have the car mechanic pay off the loans of the marketing executive earning twice as much, and boom! Banned.
(I later went on the site via a public IP address, and the discussion was 100% liberal. No mention of the negatives of the giveaway programs was being allowed.)
Let me be very clear here, and you need to understand this, that cancel culture is a result of SOCIAL MEDIA.
Social media has given the mob a voice, and the strength to enforce the groupthink views of the collective. Modern companies must pander to this mob, because they maximize profit by appealing to the largest common denominator. So what happens is that when someone falls into the crosshairs of the mob, the corporation is given an ultimatum:
"either ex-communicate the heretic, or we will make YOU the heretic and ex-communicate YOU"
How do you go about solving this problem? Man there is no easy solution, but the heart of the problem is social media. We need to find a way to reduce its influence
Many progressives objected to the limits and strictness of traditional religions. But they replaced it with a new religion, and now must kneel before it or be cast out of society.
I've been watching the growing list of sanctimonious celebrities caught in past sins. It's fun watching the monster turn on its creators.
It's absolutely not up to us, it's the companies and institutions that are firing people for exercising their first amendment rights on their own time. It's ****** up to those organizations, THEY ARE THE EXECUTIONERS
But companies and institutions make their decisions based on the $. If they think consumers will not purchase their product being endorsed -- they cancel that endorsement from that celebrity.
WE drive the dollars. Our voices, our spending habits drive companies to make decisions on who they use to endorse, what symbols they use, etc.
When a network fires someone it is because they fear they will lose viewers. If WE don't make such a fuss then guess what they won't fire that person.
Let me be very clear here, and you need to understand this, that cancel culture is a result of SOCIAL MEDIA.
Social media has given the mob a voice, and the strength to enforce the groupthink views of the collective. Modern companies must pander to this mob, because they maximize profit by appealing to the largest common denominator. So what happens is that when someone falls into the crosshairs of the mob, the corporation is given an ultimatum:
"either ex-communicate the heretic, or we will make YOU the heretic and ex-communicate YOU"
How do you go about solving this problem? Man there is no easy solution, but the heart of the problem is social media. We need to find a way to reduce its influence
It spreads faster with social media -- but it has always existed. Talk show hosts have lost shows because of cancel culture before social media
Let me be very clear here, and you need to understand this, that cancel culture is a result of SOCIAL MEDIA.
Social media has given the mob a voice, and the strength to enforce the groupthink views of the collective. Modern companies must pander to this mob, because they maximize profit by appealing to the largest common denominator. So what happens is that when someone falls into the crosshairs of the mob, the corporation is given an ultimatum:
"either ex-communicate the heretic, or we will make YOU the heretic and ex-communicate YOU"
How do you go about solving this problem? Man there is no easy solution, but the heart of the problem is social media. We need to find a way to reduce its influence
Good angle. I read it once that nowaday activism/revolution is becoming much harder to deal with as the "decentralized" nature. Often times, you can't identify the leader, cannot negotiate, and it's easily drift to anarchism.
Let me be very clear here, and you need to understand this, that cancel culture is a result of SOCIAL MEDIA.
Social media has given the mob a voice, and the strength to enforce the groupthink views of the collective. Modern companies must pander to this mob, because they maximize profit by appealing to the largest common denominator. So what happens is that when someone falls into the crosshairs of the mob, the corporation is given an ultimatum:
"either ex-communicate the heretic, or we will make YOU the heretic and ex-communicate YOU"
How do you go about solving this problem? Man there is no easy solution, but the heart of the problem is social media. We need to find a way to reduce its influence
This exactly.
Social media has enabled even the weakest individuals to become bullies.
Facebook, Twitter, Google, and YouTube need to lose their Section 230 protection. That alone will end a great deal of this.
True
buuuuut...
Then we will get a wild swing the other way with ?millions? of lawsuits. TV will then be full of commercials, "Did someone hurt your feelings on the internet? Dont feel like working for a living? Well sue them!..." America is far too litigious as it is. No I do not have a solution.
Both political ideologies use cancel culture to play their games.
It's up to us --- we consume the media.
We drive the markets (not we at this board but we the consumers).
We tolerate cancel culture when it supports our ideology but when it doesn't we moan and groan about cancel culture
True, true, true, all of it.
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Originally Posted by BlakeJones
It's absolutely not up to us, it's the companies and institutions that are firing people for exercising their first amendment rights on their own time. It's ****** up to those organizations, THEY ARE THE EXECUTIONERS
Of course it's up to us. Consumers have the ultimate control. If enough people consume or don't consume, companies listen.
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Originally Posted by Camlon
There is no way you can reduce the influence of social media, the influence will only get bigger.
You can - by not participating. It's up to you.
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Trump would leave Twitter in a heartbeat if there was a alternative with 10% of the userbase of Twitter.
He's welcome to establish his own platform. My God, he'd love it! No one would gain permission as a registered user without the approved Trumpeter responses to a dozen kazillion questions about their loyalty to the great Orange Man.
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Originally Posted by Oldhag1
Facebook, Twitter, Google, and YouTube need to lose their Section 230 protection. That alone will end a great deal of this.
That also would end social media, because each platform would require all posts to be approved - or published - first. Is that what you want?
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