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Old 05-10-2022, 08:57 AM
 
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No.

The problem is different people have different definitions.

As a teacher I sit in on this BS and people will outright say "it is not equitable that more whites make advanced classes than blacks or Hispanics." Never any word that technically whites are underrepresented due to Asian success.

Then the teachers start talking about what they can do to promote equity in that regard or in other words get equal outcomes by race.

We had a diversity and inclusion training that literally taught us equality is bad and equity is good. Equality was shown as having unequal outcomes by race and equity had equal outcomes by race.
Perhaps instead of looking through a prism of race, skin color, or ethnic origin they should have looked at economic background and single or dual parent household. The focus on skin color alone seems like a white guilt measure that’s actually racist in its practice. Someone with dark skin should automatically receive financial help to attend university regardless of their family income and education is racist. Being wealthy offers more opportunities than skin color. Poor families and families with single parents are at a disadvantage compared to wealthy two parents households regardless of skin color. Being poor and from a single parent household isn’t an excuse for being a poor student, it’s a contributing factor. Some of my classmates who were poor and black studied hard in school to escape their life. One is now a major in the local police force with multiple university degrees and another went on to become a teacher and is now a university dean.
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Old 05-10-2022, 08:58 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Nothing like the system dumbing down the kiddies. We should strive to make sure all students achieve only as much as the lowest achiever in the school achieves, so as to make sure that lowest achiever doesn't feel inferior. Better to have a school full of dunces rather than one dunce being outperformed.

Sarcasm aside, sorry lefties, but you will not change biological/scientific reality, no matter how much you try. Follow the science, remember? of course you don't! You have selective memories.



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In the United States we recognize excellence and strive towards it, we do not punish those who achieve. That is the American way
Once upon a time we had that. But things have gone considerably downhill since then.
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Old 05-10-2022, 09:03 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
No.

The problem is different people have different definitions.

As a teacher I sit in on this BS and people will outright say "it is not equitable that more whites make advanced classes than blacks or Hispanics." Never any word that technically whites are underrepresented due to Asian success.

Then the teachers start talking about what they can do to promote equity in that regard or in other words get equal outcomes by race.

We had a diversity and inclusion training that literally taught us equality is bad and equity is good. Equality was shown as having unequal outcomes by race and equity had equal outcomes by race.
'equity' is all about punishing success and discouraging achievement.
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Old 05-10-2022, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/rhode-...uity-obsession



If you voted for Democrats, at the local level, then what are you complaining about? You are getting exactly what you voted for!

I like this guy's analogy:

Who is the person responsible for this, you may ask? Lets find out:

Hhmm... sounds like a real winner!

I like this guy, too! He is absolutely 100% correct.

The only way Democrats learn to drop this crap, is for them to lose dramatically, this November. Reelecting them reinforces this behavior.
Indeed. RI is a hotbed of New Red behaviors. Why is anyone puzzled about this? They voted for it for decades.

Sow wind, reap whirlwind.
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Old 05-10-2022, 09:11 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Basically they are saying if minorities can't be smart then nobody can be smart.

Keep going left with K-12 and soon no one will be able to read or write or do simple math.
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Old 05-10-2022, 10:52 AM
 
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Basically they are saying if minorities can't be smart then nobody can be smart.

Keep going left with K-12 and soon no one will be able to read or write or do simple math.
They are actually saying "We don't think minorities can be smart or handle these advanced classes so we are not going to allow anyone else to take them either".

In the 1950s this was racist, today it is being "woke".
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Old 05-10-2022, 10:53 AM
 
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They are actually saying "We don't think minorities can be smart or handle these advanced classes so we are not going to allow anyone else to take them either".

In the 1950s this was racist, today it is being "woke".
'the soft bigotry of low expectations' hurts everyone.
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Old 05-10-2022, 11:13 AM
 
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This isn't equity. This is equality. This is why equity is what we should strive for in schools. Equality treats them all the same whereas equity addresses the various needs so that everyone can achieve their best.
Bingo...next thread please...
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Old 05-10-2022, 11:18 AM
 
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/rhode-...uity-obsession



If you voted for Democrats, at the local level, then what are you complaining about? You are getting exactly what you voted for!

I like this guy's analogy:

Who is the person responsible for this, you may ask? Lets find out:

Hhmm... sounds like a real winner!

I like this guy, too! He is absolutely 100% correct.

The only way Democrats learn to drop this crap, is for them to lose dramatically, this November. Reelecting them reinforces this behavior.

Thanks. Great, informative thread. I have linked to it in the Rhode Island forum.


The only good news is I had no idea the head of Legal Insurrection was from Rhode Island.
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Old 05-10-2022, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Indeed. RI is a hotbed of New Red behaviors. Why is anyone puzzled about this? They voted for it for decades.

Sow wind, reap whirlwind.
Yup! Probably 99.9 of these leftist ideologies are coughed up in the New England area of our country. What you are seeing here is the ultimate NIMBY moment.

What these hair brained leftists mean is the are ok with getting rid of Honors Classes as long as their kids aren’t affected.
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