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Old 06-26-2022, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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This is a ridiculous question. Some of us would rather have been aborted, so there goes your theory. Don't presume that all people living wanted to be born. I told my 37-year-old daughter this, and she understood without question.

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Their are many stories of people who were almost aborted....wonder what they think. Wonder what their childen think. Would these abortion protesters,had their choice, would they have wished they were aborted.
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Old 06-26-2022, 07:10 AM
 
Location: NJ
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If it is or it isn’t, the only real opinion that matters is the pregnant woman’s.
Nope, she entered into a contract with a man in order to get that unborn child. that child is a separate entity over which she has the responsibility to care for. The dna in that child is partially hers and partially his.
The woman does not have sole ownership!

Medical issues aside, surgical abortion is not meant to be birth control.

Take responsibility for you actions. Killing a child to make up for irresponsible behavior is not acceptable human behavior.

Tonsils are tissue that have reached maturity. At 10 weeks we see a human in a different format, still a human.

Imagine if all the money going to abortions went to a help and financially support pregnant women give birth and provide a couple, unable to bear children, their dream of raising and loving a child.

Its not the police killing blacks, it is the abortionists who kill the most blacks, next to gang bangers and no bail felons.
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Old 06-26-2022, 07:13 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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From a religious perspective it's totally possible that a soul isn't coded to a single body at conception and that if pregnancy ends (forced or nature) before some set time frame that the soul simply occupies another body. The Bible is vague on the matter, in the Old Testament priests were required to abort fetuses of adulterous women with poison water. The "in the womb you knew me" doesn't specify if at conception or late in pregnancy.
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Old 06-26-2022, 07:16 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Yes, the fetus has tonsils but the tonsils don't have a fetus.
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Old 06-26-2022, 07:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Charlie&Rose View Post
Their are many stories of people who were almost aborted....wonder what they think. Wonder what their childen think. Would these abortion protesters,had their choice, would they have wished they were aborted.
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why would anyone but that person care if he is aborted or not aborted?
as to killing a fetus,what about murders,warfare,car accident,drug overdose,suicide,plenty of grown fetus dying daily ,does anyone care so much as to demonstrate in the streets?
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Old 06-26-2022, 07:25 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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From a religious perspective it's totally possible that a soul isn't coded to a single body at conception and that if pregnancy ends (forced or nature) before some set time frame that the soul simply occupies another body. The Bible is vague on the matter, in the Old Testament priests were required to abort fetuses of adulterous women with poison water. The "in the womb you knew me" doesn't specify if at conception or late in pregnancy.
lol. You realize that drinking bitter (not "poison") water doesn't cause an abortion, right?
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Old 06-26-2022, 08:03 AM
 
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Nope, she entered into a contract with a man in order to get that unborn child. that child is a separate entity over which she has the responsibility to care for. The dna in that child is partially hers and partially his.
The woman does not have sole ownership!

Medical issues aside, surgical abortion is not meant to be birth control.

Take responsibility for you actions. Killing a child to make up for irresponsible behavior is not acceptable human behavior.

Tonsils are tissue that have reached maturity. At 10 weeks we see a human in a different format, still a human.

Imagine if all the money going to abortions went to a help and financially support pregnant women give birth and provide a couple, unable to bear children, their dream of raising and loving a child.

Its not the police killing blacks, it is the abortionists who kill the most blacks, next to gang bangers and no bail felons.
The circumstances of pregnancy, consensual or not doesn’t matter. No woman in America should be forced to remain pregnant for 9 months, labor and deliver, then either parent for 18 years or give her child up for adoption against her own will.
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Old 06-26-2022, 08:08 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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One requires invasive surgery; the other may be possible with a prescription. Both can kill the host.

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If someone strangles a puppy, we can all agree a helpless living entity with a mind and spirit has been killed.
How many hamburgers have you eaten in your lifetime? Those were also helpless living entities.
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Old 06-26-2022, 08:15 AM
 
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Where a fetus becomes a human life is a philosophical question.
Perhaps, but THAT a fetus WILL become a human life is a 100% accepted biological, scientific, observable FACT.

We can argue until the Sun burns out about what specific point on the "conception<-->birth" timeline that "becomes human" thing occurs, but we all agree, 100.00% that it WILL, IN FACT occur at some point.

Abortion accepts this truth and seeks to prevent that point in time from occurring.

The person getting an abortion accepts this truth and seeks to prevent that point in time from occurring.

The people so passionately defending the practice/institution of abortion accept this truth and zealously defend those who seek to prevent that point in time from occurring.

All the way around though, everyone accepts the central truth. That fetus WILL become a human life at some point, and abortion is EXACTLY the procedure that prevents that eventuality from coming to pass.
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Old 06-26-2022, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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... Is removing a 10-week old fetus any different than removing tonsils?
I see no difference.
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