Pro Choice Question -- Is there a difference between removing a 10-week old fetus and removing tonsils? (statistics, abortion)

[Enough_Already]

Originally Posted by Igor Blevin

If someone strangles a puppy, we can all agree a helpless living entity with a mind and spirit has been killed.

When a doctor removes tonsils, we can all agree that, while living tissue was removed and growth stopped, you didn't kill it. It is not a separate entity with a mind and a living spirit. Tonsils can't be killed.

People can readily distinguish the difference between killing a puppy, and removing tonsils. One results in death, one does not.

So I ask the question.

Is removing a 10-week old fetus any different than removing tonsils?

At conception, a new life is created.

[JerZ]

Originally Posted by ClaraC

Is that for real? That "OB" who has performed hundreds of abortions doesn't know how to pronounce dilation.

I sense a fraud.

I didn't watch the rest of it, because I didn't realize it was a second trimester procedure when I clicked on it.

This doctor is probably like that demon sperm doctor.

[Enough_Already]

Life Begins at Fertilization
The following references illustrate the fact that a new human embryo, the starting point for a human life, comes into existence with the formation of the one-celled zygote:


https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryoquotes2.html

[ClaraC]

Originally Posted by Enough_Already

Life Begins at Fertilization
The following references illustrate the fact that a new human embryo, the starting point for a human life, comes into existence with the formation of the one-celled zygote:


https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryoquotes2.html

The question is not whether the embryo is a new life.

The question is, does the mother have the right to remove the embryo from her body, and up to what point in gestation is appropriate, if so?

[tinytrump]

Originally Posted by Igor Blevin

If someone strangles a puppy, we can all agree a helpless living entity with a mind and spirit has been killed.

When a doctor removes tonsils, we can all agree that, while living tissue was removed and growth stopped, you didn't kill it. It is not a separate entity with a mind and a living spirit. Tonsils can't be killed.

People can readily distinguish the difference between killing a puppy, and removing tonsils. One results in death, one does not.

So I ask the question.

Is removing a 10-week old fetus any different than removing tonsils?

We are all living. The baby is living within the mom - but until it takes it’s breath no much else can happen. Right or wrong in this case it’s in her body. I do not like abortion, but I detest any man telling me what I can or not do. That’s the point. Now with this reversal they are all trigger happy and looking for more stuff to ban. The same ones crying they couldn’t wear a 4 inch piece of cloth over their mouth or get one of many vaccines you must get in life to help you stay alive. Abortion is PERSONAL. It’s nobody’s business but the Dr n maybe the dad. Republicans n their scotus pics have lost trust with most of women. The polls are out.

[Johnnysig]

Originally Posted by ClaraC

Is that for real? That "OB" who has performed hundreds of abortions doesn't know how to pronounce dilation.

I sense a fraud.

I didn't watch the rest of it, because I didn't realize it was a second trimester procedure when I clicked on it.

I admit it is weird how he pronounces it.

"I sense a fraud."

I'd say that is hard to pull off in his testimony given before a house judiciary committee...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0tQZhEisaE&t=15s

I've heard some other talks he gave. Just hearing it is pretty bad let alone seeing it for real.

[clutchcargo777]

Originally Posted by ClaraC

Is that for real? That "OB" who has performed hundreds of abortions doesn't know how to pronounce dilation.

I sense a fraud.

I didn't watch the rest of it, because I didn't realize it was a second trimester procedure when I clicked on it.

He pronounced it correctly. The word is "dilatation" not "dilation"


https://www.bing.com/search?q=dilata...RM=AWRE&ajf=70

[Enough_Already]

Originally Posted by ClaraC

The question is not whether the embryo is a new life.

The question is, does the mother have the right to remove the embryo from her body, and up to what point in gestation is appropriate, if so?

Your word "remove" is a manipulative way of disguising MURDER. Removing the baby KILLS THE BABY.

[Enough_Already]

Originally Posted by tinytrump

We are all living. The baby is living within the mom - but until it takes it’s breath no much else can happen. Right or wrong in this case it’s in her body. I do not like abortion, but I detest any man telling me what I can or not do. That’s the point. Now with this reversal they are all trigger happy and looking for more stuff to ban. The same ones crying they couldn’t wear a 4 inch piece of cloth over their mouth or get one of many vaccines you must get in life to help you stay alive. Abortion is PERSONAL. It’s nobody’s business but the Dr n maybe the dad. Republicans n their scotus pics have lost trust with most of women. The polls are out.

The baby is a separate human life. Abortion kills that life. You ignore the baby's body and the baby's right to choose to live.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Enough_Already

At conception, a new life is created.

That is pretty late in the process.

God knew each of us from before the Foundations of earth.

Jeremiah 1:5

Psalm 139:16

Isaiah 49:5

Ephesians 1:4

Romans 8:29

Isaiah 49:1

Galatians 1:15