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Old 07-15-2022, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You might not, but the Texas Medical Association does

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very liberal AUSTIN — The Texas Medical Association wants regulators to step in after hospitals reportedly refused to treat patients with serious pregnancy complications for fear of violating the state’s abortion ban.

In a letter sent Wednesday to the Texas Medical Board, the association said it received complaints that hospitals, their administrators and their lawyers may be prohibiting physicians from providing medically appropriate care to women with ectopic pregnancies and other complications.
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the possible texas bans has not even gone into effect.. and yet there are allegations that this MAY happen....

sorry but its bullcrap... I am a combat medic, and no administrator, nor lawyer, is going to stop me from treating/saving a patient

 
Old 07-15-2022, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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All complaints are technically allegations, so ok, have it your way.

Are you saying the Texas Medical Association’s letter to the Medical Board contains complaints that are without merit?
Yes.
 
Old 07-15-2022, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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All complaints are technically allegations, so ok, have it your way.

Are you saying the Texas Medical Association’s letter to the Medical Board contains complaints that are without merit?
yes...why
1. the tx abortion ban, doe not even go into effect until the end of the month... logic says that they would be doing as many as possible before the ban goes into effect

2. the abortion ban, while strict, does not ban ending tubal pregnancies...It's a true surgical emergency. It is not an abortion. Treating an ectopic is not an abortion. an ectopic pregnancy cannot be moved to the uterus, it is treated one of two ways: medication or surgery, and again its NOT an abortion.

3. no medical practitioner worth his/her salt would turn away an emergency, which an ectopic/tubal pregnancy is


so why dont you prove the ""merits of the complaints""", because as a medic, I call malarkey
 
Old 07-15-2022, 07:03 PM
 
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Gee, who could have predicted that the law of unintended consequences would take over?

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...p?t=61d7f0b189

Remember when conservatives tried to brush off the claim that the SC decision wouldn't affect women's abilities to seek treatment for ectopic pregnancies in states with draconian abortion laws? Looks like you can throw that wishful thinking out the window.
What a bunch of liberal BS!:smac k:

This (and miscarriages) is the new liberal outrageous "argument" against banning abortion. NEWSFLASH: A miscarriage and ectopics are NOT A VIABLE FETUS AND CAN NEVER BE BROUGHT TO TERM-NEVER.
 
Old 07-15-2022, 07:21 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Regardless, fear of prosecution is causing issues, just like we said it would. The OP is correct:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/poli...ociation-says/
Since when is a salpingectomy an abortion? They're two entirely different procedures.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/healt...-salpingectomy

Someone's trying to put one over on you and others solely for political purposes. Don't fall for it.
 
Old 07-15-2022, 07:23 PM
 
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yes...why
1. the tx abortion ban, doe not even go into effect until the end of the month... logic says that they would be doing as many as possible before the ban goes into effect

2. the abortion ban, while strict, does not ban ending tubal pregnancies...It's a true surgical emergency. It is not an abortion. Treating an ectopic is not an abortion. an ectopic pregnancy cannot be moved to the uterus, it is treated one of two ways: medication or surgery, and again its NOT an abortion.

3. no medical practitioner worth his/her salt would turn away an emergency, which an ectopic/tubal pregnancy is


so why dont you prove the ""merits of the complaints""", because as a medic, I call malarkey
I understand an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion.

Because they do not name the complainants, I cannot prove or disprove either way, both you and Chuckity are correct there.

I honestly hope you are right that this won’t become an issue, and that the TMA, with its 56,000 physician members across Texas, were just outright lying and making up the complaints alleging from their members, that they then risked sending to the Texas Medical Board, because that’s genuinely better than what they’re reporting.
 
Old 07-15-2022, 08:06 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Regardless, fear of prosecution is causing issues, just like we said it would. The OP is correct:



https://www.dallasnews.com/news/poli...ociation-says/
Did you see the word "may" in your article?
 
Old 07-15-2022, 08:08 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Follow the money people. This association is pro abortion and have a decade of lobbying for it
 
Old 07-15-2022, 08:11 PM
 
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Are you saying the Texas Medical Association is lying?

It is not alleged that they sent a letter to the Texas Medical Board outlining these incidents.
That a letter was sent is likely true. State med associations have to investigate every claim.

The allegations in the letter are bs. But leftists will fund raise on it anyway.
 
Old 07-15-2022, 08:16 PM
 
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Of course this is BS, but the answer is simple. Texas needs to make it clear in law that it is perfectly fine to care for the mother in these types of pregnancies. Of course, the left wants to turn this non issue into a reason for full term abortions.
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