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Old 07-16-2022, 07:26 AM
 
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There were also people who were skeptical but didn't call it is lie. The doctor that reported it to the media first and not the officials didn't give a hoot about the welfare, they wanted the publicity about the abortion.

None of the stories talked about what the girl had to go through when she was raped, nothing about the rapist. The only concern they had was to make it a point of her having to go to another state to get an abortion. The MSM and Pro-Abortion people wanted to drive the message, they didn't want more details out. It was ONLY after the constant pushing from the "doubters" that we got the full story. The rapist is not in this country illegally. Which unfortunately puts one Porigessive agenda against another and why that "fact" was apparently being hidden.

The same thing will likely happen here. The Pro-Abortion people hope they can stick this story out there and just have it become "fact". With past experience, there will be people pushing for the truth, and we'll see what that truth actually is.
Well stated and you're exactly right!

 
Old 07-16-2022, 07:31 AM
 
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There were also people who were skeptical but didn't call it is lie. The doctor that reported it to the media first and not the officials didn't give a hoot about the welfare, they wanted the publicity about the abortion.

None of the stories talked about what the girl had to go through when she was raped, nothing about the rapist. The only concern they had was to make it a point of her having to go to another state to get an abortion. The MSM and Pro-Abortion people wanted to drive the message, they didn't want more details out. It was ONLY after the constant pushing from the "doubters" that we got the full story. The rapist is not in this country illegally. Which unfortunately puts one Porigessive agenda against another and why that "fact" was apparently being hidden.

The same thing will likely happen here. The Pro-Abortion people hope they can stick this story out there and just have it become "fact". With past experience, there will be people pushing for the truth, and we'll see what that truth actually is.
The rapist is in the country illegally.

The story had red flags like using the phrase "child abuse doctor." Who talks like that? There's no such thing.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 07:31 AM
 
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How do you know the allegations are bs?

Why would a professional organisation that represents 55,000 physicians resort to lying about what’s likely easily corroborated reports?

That would seem a rather risky move on their behalf.
It's not about that organization lying. I'm sure there were several claims made but that doesn't make the claims themselves legitimate. Pro-abortionists would resort to that because they are PO about the Roe vs Wade ruling.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 07:32 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What will they do in case of ectopic pregnancies? They will do nothing until the tube has ruptured. Then they can say that we didn't kill the baby. GOD killed it. Now, let's try to save the woman's life.

That happened to me in a NYC Catholic Hospital in 1982. Want to know what the symptoms of a rupture are? Severe pain on one side of the body where tube has ruptured, plus external AND internal bleeding. The internal bleeding will be worse than the external bleeding.If that bleeding is not stopped, the woman WILL DIE.
Ectopic pregnancies usually aren't detected until symptoms such as you describe are present. So there seems to be no point to your post.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 07:33 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Yea but she /her atty is kicking their arse now for false info at famous for lying Fox news.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/...e/65374295007/
First, FOX said the hospital was investigating her for HIPAA claims. The hospital did indeed do that as your article attests to. The hospital is now saying that investigation cleared her.

However, based on this statement:

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Often the trick here is determining when health information will still be considered identifiable,” Howard said in an email. “A good rule of thumb is if the information can reasonably be linked back to an individual, and the past, present or future provision of health care to that individual, it is identifiable.”

Although the law enumerates different potential identifiers that must be removed, such as name, date of birth, and address, there’s a final “catch all” category that includes any unique identifier, he added. This category requires providers to ensure that the information can not be reasonably linked back to the patient.
…and the fact that Telemundo found this child I don’t see how there wasn’t a HIPAA violation. There are not a great deal of 10-year old pregnant girls running around as the doctor had to of known, it qualifies as a unique qualifier. The doctor’s statements opened this family to national media attention. The girl’s family is unlikely to have the wherewithal to be able to force anything to be done to the doctor, but make no mistake, the doctor’s blabbing was if nothing else highly unethical. I get it, the good doctor was carrying her banner to battle by telling the story, but in her quest to point out the possible perils of Ohio’s law she was willing to allow her very young patient to be collateral damage. Not okay.

And don’t get me started on the “mistake” with the father’s age. Either the mother lied, and needs to be prosecuted for trying to protect the rapist, or the doctor lied, and needs to be sanctioned for avoiding her mandated reporting of child abuse. Teachers have lost their credentials for less.
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Old 07-16-2022, 07:38 AM
 
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Yea but she /her atty is kicking their arse now for false info at famous for lying Fox news.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/...e/65374295007/
The Washington Post was the news outlet that originally questioned the Ohio/Indiana story, not Fox.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 07:40 AM
 
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Regardless, fear of prosecution is causing issues, just like we said it would. The OP is correct:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/poli...ociation-says/
These stories will keep coming out and really damage the GOP this fall. The reason R v W happened was in part because of this sort of thing.

Look the SCOTUS was correct to send this back to the states. I don't blame them. But these backwards states who are banning abortion will feel backlash. What could have been a perfect storm for the GOP in November may not happen.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 07:42 AM
 
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What will they do in case of ectopic pregnancies? They will do nothing until the tube has ruptured. Then they can say that we didn't kill the baby. GOD killed it. Now, let's try to save the woman's life.

That happened to me in a NYC Catholic Hospital in 1982. Want to know what the symptoms of a rupture are? Severe pain on one side of the body where tube has ruptured, plus external AND internal bleeding. The internal bleeding will be worse than the external bleeding.If that bleeding is not stopped, the woman WILL DIE.
Yes, my sister in law almost died from a ruptured ectopic pregnancy. The local hospital was going to let her die. They just gave her IV fluids and was going to send her home. She was told to just take Tylenol. The family took her to another hospital right away and they rushed her to emergency surgery as soon as they saw her when she came through the door. She actually crashed on the table and had to be brought back. Took her weeks to recover and she couldn't have more children.

The hospital that was going to let her die told her that she just had female troubles and didn't tell her what the problem was. They acted like she was a bother to them.

It doesn't take an abortion ban for some hospitals to let someone die. Some people are evil.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 07:42 AM
 
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These stories will keep coming out and really damage the GOP this fall. The reason R v W happened was in part because of this sort of thing.

Look the SCOTUS was correct to send this back to the states. I don't blame them. But these backwards states who are banning abortion will feel backlash. What could have been a perfect storm for the GOP in November may not happen.
The reason for Roe V Wade originally had nothing to do with abortion for medical reasons.

There is no reason at all why hospitals should be refusing to treat medical emergencies such as ectopic pregnancies so hopefully this will be cleared up quickly.
 
Old 07-16-2022, 07:45 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Gee, who could have predicted that the law of unintended consequences would take over?

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...p?t=61d7f0b189

Remember when conservatives tried to brush off the claim that the SC decision wouldn't affect women's abilities to seek treatment for ectopic pregnancies in states with draconian abortion laws? Looks like you can throw that wishful thinking out the window.
I call BS on this one. If you actually read the article ( instead of knee- jerk reacting to the misleading click-bait title of the thread,) the article reports second hand a highly speculative letter from the Texas Medical Association stating that hospitals, health care providers *may* be refusing to treat " ectopic pregnancies and other pregnancy complications, based on possibilities ( again, highly speculative and unverified) that complaints regarding this refusal of care * may* have been filed with the Texas Medical Association. Smoke and mirrors, typical of left wing "reporting".

One more time, ectopic pregnancies are medical, life threatening issues that do NOT fall into the realm of abortions. The embryo implanted in a fallopian tube will develop only to the point ( if that) to where the tube ruptures, causing extensive blood loss, death to the fetus and most likely the mother, especially if she doesn't get help. There is no good ending resulting from an ectopic pregnancy, and health care providers know this, know the devastating consequences of not treating ectopic pregnancies, and would hardly confuse this with a woman wanting a termination of a normally developing pregnancy, regardless of their personal perspectives on the issues of abortion.

Pregnancy complications, not detailed in this article, generally fall into the medical, sometimes sooner or later life threatening to the fetus, and the mother ( say in incomplete spontaneous miscarriages where part of the fetal or placental tissue is retained, death of the fetus in utero) not in the realm of aborting a healthy fetus. Medical providers also recognize conditions in which the mothers' life would be in jeopardy with continuation of a pregnancy, and again, know the outcomes for both the mother and the baby will not be a good one should the pregnancy be allowed to continue for as long as it will.

These do not fall into the realm of elective abortions of healthy fetuses from healthy women, and the left's attempts to conflate elective abortions of healthy pregnancies with true medical emergencies, casting aspersions on the medical professionals who know the difference, is just more misleading baloney put out there in their attempts to inflame the ignorant masses.
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