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Old 07-17-2022, 07:03 AM
 
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Okay, so let me put it this way: If Russia didn't have nukes and we could easily obliterate the Russians, would that really be bad when historically they have always been a destructive evil power since Catherine the great.
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Old 07-17-2022, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Correct. At least now our war by proxy is only nuking economies.



Yeah and We are feeling the pain of that.

Russians are used to inflation and making do with less whereas we are not. Communism has a way of crushing ones soul. Biden and the Dems are working on breaking us down.
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Old 07-17-2022, 07:09 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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How about we just be better human beings than that?
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Old 07-17-2022, 07:18 AM
 
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I mean really, just look at all of Russia's history. Though they've always gone differently about it. since their inception., their leaders have ALWAYS been horrifical clown like evil. We took down Nazi Germany, I wish we could Call Russians evil callous, but I would not feel the least bit bad at all if were doing to Moscow what they are doing to Ukraine.
Russians faced the brunt of the Nazis far more than the western powers did. Russian history is vastly different than American and anglo Saxon history. Russian history is also far older than American. Like China and Iran. Russia can not have a democracy, Russian people picked a viking olag the first to be their ruler and to be its king with the kievan Rus. The Rus asked for authorian rule from the begining. If America invaded russia? Nyc and DC will get nuked if that happens. The whole northeast will turn into Glass.
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Old 07-17-2022, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Okay, so let me put it this way: If Russia didn't have nukes and we could easily obliterate the Russians, would that really be bad when historically they have always been a destructive evil power since Catherine the great.
The Russians were not the most destructive powers since the time of Catherine the Great.

The two most despotic leaders were with out doubt Napoleon Bonaparte and Adolf Hitler, who both made the costly mistake of invading Russia and suffered the consequences in relation to the Russian Winter,

The Russian's were never the great military power, and were defeated during the Crimean War, and the Russians also lagged behind some other countries in terms of technology.

In terms of WW1 they left in 1917 to fight in the revolution, and in terms of WW2 they did to some extent reap what they sowed, as they courted Hitler and even helped supply the Nazi's to begin with, before being attacked by the very monster they had helped create.

In reality Russia has a history of military disasters and they were defeated in the Winter War by the Finns, whilst WW2 saw them retake Russia but at the cost of around 25 million dead Russians, whilst later conflicts in Afghanistan, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Chechnya and Ukraine have hardly gone as planned.

In reality Russia has not really done that much to the US and has mainly concentrated on areas around it's borders which it sees as it's property.
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Old 07-17-2022, 07:27 AM
 
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What if America did to Russia what they're doing to Ukraine?
I think we'd better take a hard pass on that one.
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Old 07-17-2022, 07:32 AM
 
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I mean really, just look at all of Russia's history. Though they've always gone differently about it. since their inception., their leaders have ALWAYS been horrifical clown like evil. We took down Nazi Germany, I wish we could Call Russians evil callous, but I would not feel the least bit bad at all if were doing to Moscow what they are doing to Ukraine.
Correction.
The US didn’t take Nazi’s Germany down - the Russians did.

You are re-writing the history
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Old 07-17-2022, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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We took down Nazi Germany
As did the Soviet Union.
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Old 07-17-2022, 07:44 AM
 
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Correction.
The US didn’t take Nazi’s Germany down - the Russians did.

You are re-writing the history
Well. perhaps so. But I wish we cold have left BOTH Germany and the Soviets in rubble. Akin to say, both your mother and father were extremely abusive.
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Old 07-17-2022, 07:47 AM
 
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I mean really, just look at all of Russia's history. Though they've always gone differently about it. since their inception., their leaders have ALWAYS been horrifical clown like evil. We took down Nazi Germany, I wish we could Call Russians evil callous, but I would not feel the least bit bad at all if were doing to Moscow what they are doing to Ukraine.
Then China would come to Russia's aide, and we fat, lazy Americans would discover what it means to have a war on our lands.

World politics is nasty business.
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