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Old 07-30-2022, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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They claim he has no symptoms so this is likely a false positive if they’re being truthful but why did they test him again then?
Aren't people in the WH routinely tested daily?
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Old 07-30-2022, 04:00 PM
 
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I'm a retired doc. I read it and reviewed in many medical articles.

Rebound has been a nuisance, but not a serious problem.

If you are 65 or older, or have high risk medical problems, there is a higher chance of your early Covid case becoming more severe, where you end up in the hospital or worse if you do not take the recommended therapies.

With the more recent and benign variants, it may turn out that your chances might be good enough without them. But until those possible conclusions are reached, the treatments are the best medical recommendation at this time.
I understand the general high risk for the elderly. Your second paragraph implies the first bout with COVID. Biden was clear for a few days from COVID.

I hadn't heard about any rebound cases prior to this Paxlovid drug - even in older people. What normally occurred is you would have some built up immunity once COVID was gone and people would at least be good for a few months.
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Old 07-30-2022, 04:06 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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Here's a thought.

Maybe Biden's practice of wearing a mask when he is outside and no one is within 50 feet of him, but then walking up to a crowd of people only to then remove his mask, shake hands and sniff hair is not the way to go.

Maybe he has this backwards.
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Old 07-30-2022, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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I'm a retired doc. I read it and reviewed in many medical articles.

Rebound has been a nuisance, but not a serious problem.

If you are 65 or older, or have high risk medical problems, there is a higher chance of your early Covid case becoming more severe, where you end up in the hospital or worse if you do not take the recommended therapies.

With the more recent and benign variants, it may turn out that your chances might be good enough without them. But until those possible conclusions are reached, the treatments are the best medical recommendation at this time.

Hmmm … where have I heard the bolded before? Oh yeah - when they said breakthrough cases after vaccination were rare.

We (the public) could see in real time how “not rare” breakthrough cases were - except the powers that be insisted they were.

Same song and dance here. Rinse, lather, repeat.
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Old 07-30-2022, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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I understand the general high risk for the elderly.

There is elderly... Where the person might see a geriatric specialist if there is a concern...


And then there is Biden, where you would call in a paleontologist...
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Old 07-30-2022, 04:33 PM
 
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Back in 2020 my husband had a lab test done in a hospital. Positive. So he quarantined for 14 days. Since he needed a Negative test, 21 days after his initial positive test, he went to a CVS for another lab test. That came back positive. So who did he catch it again from? I tested Negative. He did not have contact with anyone else.

He called up the hospital to schedule another test (lab) and they refused to give him another test until 3 MONTHS later. Remember this was 3 weeks after first test. Hospital said the test was sensitive enough to give a positive result with only trace amount of the virus, which someone could still have months later.

Hospital gave him a note saying that after 14 days he was no long contagious.

Have they changed these lab tests? If not, why are people testing on a daily basis? At Home Rapid Tests are better than Hospital Lab Tests?
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Old 07-30-2022, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Pfizer maintains that the so-called rebound cases occurred in both Paxlovid patients and those who did not take Paxlovoid in trials and that the difference is not statistically significant, though they were rare in all cases making it difficult to infer much from the data. Research continues.
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Old 07-30-2022, 04:56 PM
 
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Is this another Covid rebound again from Paxlovid?? First Fauci and now Biden??

Serious question.... if these boosters are supposedly doing their job, reducing symptoms, and keeping people out of the hospitals, then why is Paxlovid necessary? Biden is double boosted, so shouldn't that have been enough for him??
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Old 07-30-2022, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Pfizer maintains that the so-called rebound cases occurred in both Paxlovid patients and those who did not take Paxlovoid in trials and that the difference is not statistically significant, though they were rare in all cases making it difficult to infer much from the data. Research continues.
So rare that both Biden & Fauci had rebound Covid.

It reminds me of that plane of Texas Dems who all got breakthrough Covid.

They said that was “rare” too.
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Old 07-30-2022, 05:19 PM
 
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After reading all of the posts in this thread, I don’t think any of the above is going to change the minds about the effectiveness of the recommended medical treatments for COVID for most of the people here. When you were actively practicing medicine, did you see an increased trend over time for patients to ignore, disregard, or not believe the medical advice you dispensed? It has to be frustrating for practitioners to (1) have to deal with the magnitude of the actual illness related with the pandemic, and (2) then have to deal with increasing numbers of patients who have decided they know better than their medical providers. Must be exhausting.
It must be very frustrating. I no longer practice having retired just before the Pandemic. But I would have quit anyway since my wife was very high risk, and I couldn't risk bringing it home to her. As it was she nearly died of it March/April 2020. And is probably recovering right now from the more benign BA5 variant. Sans Paxlovid since her testing has stayed negative.

In my practice I know I would have had to explain so much to so many of my patients, since I practiced in a very conservative small rural town. One of the most conservative counties in the US. I have no doubts that the vast bulk would have trusted me and gone with the general medical recommendations, but also no doubt it would have been exhausting.
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