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Old 12-13-2008, 08:21 PM
 
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move out of so cal
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:25 PM
 
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There are laws covering every complaint you mentioned. The City will definately act of you contact them, unless you are the problem, and don't like poeple from other countries.
Too many people in a dwelling is ilegal, loud noise, illegal. The City will definately act.

If I were the problem because I didn't like their country I would have at least mentioned the country right? But I didn't because that's not the point at all. They could be from Tibet or Timbuktu for all I care. Just leave the goat and pigs back on the farm, OK?. My area is zoned for residential.

Too many people in a dwelling is illegal, unless they are family members or just temporarily visiting and guess what? that's exactly what these people claim when the city inspects and since the City doesn't have the resources to have someone literally sit there a few days and watch the movement they have to assume it's true. In fact that's exactly what an empathising city employee told me off the record.

The cops told me that they completely simpathised with me but that the noise, the cars, the overcrowding where city matters because they didn't have the resources or authority to enforce housing laws.
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:35 PM
 
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move out of so cal
Well at what point does 'moving' turn into 'fleeing' and what guarantees the problem won't follow me wherever I go as it already has?
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Shoot yourself a few days of good video of all this crap going on and give it to your city council. Tell them you want some action taken on this, make sure the date and time is recorded on the video when you shoot it. I think it may be a little hard for your neighbors to lie about what goes on there then.
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:21 PM
 
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Shoot yourself a few days of good video of all this crap going on and give it to your city council. Tell them you want some action taken on this, make sure the date and time is recorded on the video when you shoot it. I think it may be a little hard for your neighbors to lie about what goes on there then.
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:47 PM
 
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How about approach one or both house holds and mention you are looking to sale, are they interested?
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:39 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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I'm usually satisfied with just reading other peoples posts, but now I have a problem and I'm feeling cornered and need advice so I took the big step and regidstered.

Turns out I moved from my previous home (an apt) because a family of immigrants moved right next door to me and my quality of life -which was pretty much OK until then- went completely down the tubes. These people started cramming renters into every nook & cranny of their apt until their 2-bedroom 1 bath had 12 people living in it. If you can call that 'living' that is. There was loud music at all hours, constant banging against the walls, trash, strangers coming and going at odd hours. Basically these people came directly from some 4th world cesspool and had absolutely no intentions whatsoever of adapting or learning our rules. I complained to the apt manager but it turns out he was from the same country as these people and so was extremely lenient towards them. The city didn't offer any solutions either and told me it was a police issue, the cops told me it was a city matter, you get the picture.

My wife and I decided to move out to a home so we scouted out an affordable, decent area and purposely chose a house sandwiched between two excellent neighbors (well-kept lawns & houses, few cars in driveway, few occupants per home). WE really did our homwwork because I didn't want to windup repeating the experience of the past.

The aftr a couple of years of bliss lo & behold both of my neighbors on either side moved on thanks to the housing bubble (they sold their homes for over twice what they paid!) and would you believe I get two new families coming in from the same country of the people I had at the apt before and the crap started all over again!

They're renting out every nook & cranny, loud music at all hours, trash, strangers coming and going at odd hours, twenty cars overflowing from the driveway into the streets. I call the cops they say it's a city thing, I call the city they say call the cops.

I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE AGAIN that's for dang sure! This'll be my Fort Alamo. I'm going down like Davy Crockett. There's no escaping these vermin anyway, not on my salary at least.
That's one of the unmentioned secondary aspects of the recent housing bubble: it allowed deadbeats like these people who speak almost no English and have landscaping jobs to move into more traditionally American areas. I have no problem at all with that but instead of them adapting to our customs they impose their crappy lifestyles on us!

Examples; One day a food vendor truck passed by my street by mistake (they usually never came to the area before) and these two faimlies were out on their lawns as usual washing their many cars and blasting that awful music of theirs so they bought some stuff from the truckvendor. Now I have all kinds of vendors patrolling the streets with trucks, pushcarts and on foot door to door.

Long rant but I really really really really needed to vent my frustration somehow and I hope someone can give me some good advice as to what to do with my situation.

Oh BTW I'm in Southern CA.
Hmmm, do I feel bad for you? Not really, we all have our neighbor problems. Go to the city's department of neighborhood services & go that route instead of bitching on here.
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:55 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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move out of so cal
So much easer when your home has wheels !
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Old 12-14-2008, 12:42 AM
 
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I'm usually satisfied with just reading other peoples posts, but now I have a problem and I'm feeling cornered and need advice so I took the big step and regidstered.

Turns out I moved from my previous home (an apt) because a family of immigrants moved right next door to me and my quality of life -which was pretty much OK until then- went completely down the tubes. These people started cramming renters into every nook & cranny of their apt until their 2-bedroom 1 bath had 12 people living in it. If you can call that 'living' that is. There was loud music at all hours, constant banging against the walls, trash, strangers coming and going at odd hours. Basically these people came directly from some 4th world cesspool and had absolutely no intentions whatsoever of adapting or learning our rules. I complained to the apt manager but it turns out he was from the same country as these people and so was extremely lenient towards them. The city didn't offer any solutions either and told me it was a police issue, the cops told me it was a city matter, you get the picture.

My wife and I decided to move out to a home so we scouted out an affordable, decent area and purposely chose a house sandwiched between two excellent neighbors (well-kept lawns & houses, few cars in driveway, few occupants per home). WE really did our homwwork because I didn't want to windup repeating the experience of the past.

The aftr a couple of years of bliss lo & behold both of my neighbors on either side moved on thanks to the housing bubble (they sold their homes for over twice what they paid!) and would you believe I get two new families coming in from the same country of the people I had at the apt before and the crap started all over again!

They're renting out every nook & cranny, loud music at all hours, trash, strangers coming and going at odd hours, twenty cars overflowing from the driveway into the streets. I call the cops they say it's a city thing, I call the city they say call the cops.

I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE AGAIN that's for dang sure! This'll be my Fort Alamo. I'm going down like Davy Crockett. There's no escaping these vermin anyway, not on my salary at least.
That's one of the unmentioned secondary aspects of the recent housing bubble: it allowed deadbeats like these people who speak almost no English and have landscaping jobs to move into more traditionally American areas. I have no problem at all with that but instead of them adapting to our customs they impose their crappy lifestyles on us!

Examples; One day a food vendor truck passed by my street by mistake (they usually never came to the area before) and these two faimlies were out on their lawns as usual washing their many cars and blasting that awful music of theirs so they bought some stuff from the truckvendor. Now I have all kinds of vendors patrolling the streets with trucks, pushcarts and on foot door to door.

Long rant but I really really really really needed to vent my frustration somehow and I hope someone can give me some good advice as to what to do with my situation.

Oh BTW I'm in Southern CA.
Oh, SoCal. Well, unless you have a LOT Of money, you are sort of screwed. It's going to follow you unless you make that leap into different socioeconomic class or go somewhere where you can get the bang for your buck to catapult you into that strata.

I lived in CA for 13 years, both in San Diego and San Francisco Bay Area. I bought a place a ways out from The City. There was one of me living in a 3 BR townhouse and many of them living next door in a 2 BR, one story level place. They had mattresses on the garage floor and would throw their cigarettes over the fence into my back yard. Mexican family. As I speak Spanish and have had a few Latino BF's, I tried the first approach - to be nice. That only worked for so long. By the time it was over, I was taking a hammer to the wall and hitting it over their music.

My solution? Sell the house, take the money and run, and move to a decent and upscale neighborhood that is pricey (and no likely a neighborhood in which you'll get much bang for the buck) in another state. It's worked for me for five years now (at least this aspect of life) and is dead quiet in my neighborhood, for the most part.

Good luck. I fear you are going to continue to deal with this in SoCal. If it's really that bad, you could always leave the state and relocate somewhere with a lower cost of living.

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Old 12-14-2008, 12:56 AM
 
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Hmmm, do I feel bad for you? Not really, we all have our neighbor problems. Go to the city's department of neighborhood services & go that route instead of bitching on here.
I take issue with your comment. The OP has a valid complaint and is looking for help. Several posters HAVE wanted to help. You seem to want to criticize, OTOH, so maybe best not to participate in this thread. If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all, as the adage goes. BTW, the city won't do jack ****. As long as the music isn't after 10 p.m., what do they care? The city is the WORST place to go.
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