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Only Americans are idiotic enough to consider congressional pages "children"
They're either 16 or 17 years old. It's not pedophilia, but still wrong. Terribly wrong. If the congressmen were 20 year old "adults," it would be fine. But we're talking about 40, 50+ year old adults. That's reprehensible.
They're either 16 or 17 years old. It's not pedophilia, but still wrong. Terribly wrong. If the congressmen were 20 year old "adults," it would be fine. But we're talking about 40, 50+ year old adults. That's reprehensible.
I don't agree. If we agree that a 16 or 17 year old can be sexually active, it shouldn't matter what age their choice of partner is. What possible difference does it make?
Only Americans are idiotic enough to consider congressional pages "children"
I agree with you on that, but your suggestion that most Democrats are fine with adults and teenagers having sex is what makes it difficult to take you seriously.
I agree with you on that, but your suggestion that most Democrats are fine with adults and teenagers having sex is what makes it difficult to take you seriously.
Yeah, that part was semi-joking, but I clarified it.
The weird thing about that so-called scandal though, is that it vindicated everything I've said about teenagers all along: that they know how to say no to an advance they don't want. Not one of the teenagers fell for Foley's charms. Yet that point has been studiously ignored.
I don't agree. If we agree that a 16 or 17 year old can be sexually active, it shouldn't matter what age their choice of partner is. What possible difference does it make?
Manipulation/coercion
And we agree they can be sexually active, but we do not agree that they should be, even with other kids their own age.
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That's a bunch of complete and total bull****. If even a congressman, with all his wealth and power, couldn't even manipulate/coerce himself into one teenager's pants, what do you think are the odds of an average 50-year-old Joe Schmoe doing it?
If a 16- or 17-year-old is sleeping with someone, I'm going to assume until proven otherwise that it's because they want to. You can live in right-wing la-la-land if you prefer.
You live in a perverted land of the perverts;if you really think a 16-17 year old is grownup IMO.In msost satates it considered rape;plain and simple.
In most states, it absolutely is not. The age of consent is 16 in most states. Look it up.
But with that being said, it really doesn't matter if the law calls it rape; it isn't. The law might choose to call a dog's tail a leg, but that doesn't make it a leg.
Yeah, that part was semi-joking, but I clarified it.
The weird thing about that so-called scandal though, is that it vindicated everything I've said about teenagers all along: that they know how to say no to an advance they don't want. Not one of the teenagers fell for Foley's charms. Yet that point has been studiously ignored.
Okay, good, thanks for clarifying. Now I can take you seriously again.
I do agree with you. Teenagers deserve more credit than they're given. It seems like many adults want to treat 16-year-olds in the same way they treat 6-year-olds when it comes to sex and relationships.
The young guy having the IM with Foley wasn't afraid, and he wasn't being trapped or forced into anything. To me, the IMs between the two of them were unprofessional, but not much worse than the unprofessional behavior that occurs between adults in the workplace every day.
You live in a perverted land of the perverts;if you really think a 16-17 year old is grownup IMO.In msost satates it considered rape;plain and simple.
No, it's not so plain and simple. In most states, the age of consent is 16, and then there's usually an exception given that allows someone three or four years older to have sex with them legally.
Obviously, Foley was much older, but I just wanted to point out that it is legal for many teenagers in this country to have sex with adults, albeit, young adults.
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