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Old 05-28-2009, 04:13 PM
 
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Perhaps George W Bush may have really been a crusader after all and not just a man recklessly using words. Well leave it to the French...

Now a freakish aspect has been added: Former French President Jacques Chirac says Bush told him the war was started to fend off Gog and Magog.

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Chirac said Bush appealed to their "common faith" (Christianity) and told him: "Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East ... the biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. ... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins."
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:14 PM
 
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This surprises you?
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:20 PM
 
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Perhaps George W Bush may have really been a crusader after all and not just a man recklessly using words. Well leave it to the French...

Now a freakish aspect has been added: Former French President Jacques Chirac says Bush told him the war was started to fend off Gog and Magog.

The Charleston Gazette - West Virginia News and Sports - Editorials - Bizarre*
I think it is probably true. When Bush was dried out and given religion prior to his becoming president, well, he was given religion in Texas.

He's not a bright man. Neither are most Baptists. It's a tradition.
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:33 PM
 
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Confirms everything I believed about Bush The Idiot.

People who want to read more about this crackpot of a president should read The Bush Tragedy by Jacob Weisberg.

All the more reason we can NEVER let a fundie near the white house; these people are insane, as crazy as the Taliban.
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:33 PM
 
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The tradition of Gog and Magog (Hebrew: גוג ומגוג‎; Arabic: يأجوج و مأجوج‎) begins in the Bible with the reference to Magog, son of Japheth, in the Book of Genesis and continues in cryptic prophecies in the Book of Ezekiel which are echoed in the Book of Revelation and in the Qur'an. The tradition is very ambiguous, with even the very nature of the entities differing between sources. They are variously presented as men, supernatural beings (giants or demons), national groups, or lands. Gog and Magog occur widely in mythology and folklore.

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Old 05-28-2009, 04:36 PM
 
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We're part of history.

The rise and fall of the United States OF America. No Country on the upswing could ever have voted that idiot into office. Obama may just be a speed bump on the road.
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:41 PM
 
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I think it is probably true. When Bush was dried out and given religion prior to his becoming president, well, he was given religion in Texas.

He's not a bright man. Neither are most Baptists. It's a tradition.
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Confirms everything I believed about Bush The Idiot.

People who want to read more about this crackpot of a president should read The Bush Tragedy by Jacob Weisberg.

All the more reason we can NEVER let a fundie near the white house; these people are insane, as crazy as the Taliban.
Well to the two posts above, I do not think this reflects "Baptist" or evangelicals or even fundamentalist as much as I see this as a view of dispensationalism or tribulationist which are a breed unto themselves. I happen to know a good number of both Baptist and even a few fundamentalist Christians who very much disagree with this view in part or whole.

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The tradition of Gog and Magog (Hebrew: גוג ומגוג‎; Arabic: يأجوج و مأجوج‎) begins in the Bible with the reference to Magog, son of Japheth, in the Book of Genesis and continues in cryptic prophecies in the Book of Ezekiel which are echoed in the Book of Revelation and in the Qur'an. The tradition is very ambiguous, with even the very nature of the entities differing between sources. They are variously presented as men, supernatural beings (giants or demons), national groups, or lands. Gog and Magog occur widely in mythology and folklore.

Gog and Magog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well this doesn't make me feel any better... in fact, it makes me want to go grab a cup of hard cider and sit on the porch trying to decide if I should build a bunker or move to Canada. (chuckling)
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:47 PM
 
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Well to the two posts above, I do not think this reflects "Baptist" or evangelicals or even fundamentalist as much as I see this as a view of dispensationalism or tribulationist which are a breed unto themselves. I happen to know a good number of both Baptist and even a few fundamentalist Christians who very much disagree with this view in part or whole.

Dispensationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What is Dispensationalism?



Well this doesn't make me feel any better... in fact, it makes me want to go grab a cup of hard cider and sit on the porch trying to decide if I should build a bunker or move to Canada. (chuckling)

LMAO...i'll join you
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:54 PM
 
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Well this doesn't make me feel any better... in fact, it makes me want to go grab a cup of hard cider and sit on the porch trying to decide if I should build a bunker or move to Canada. (chuckling)
I don't think that our man Bush even realizes that he is a decendent of the Japhetic tribe. So if he was all trying to protect Israel from Magog, he would have done well to not getting involved in the first place.
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Old 05-28-2009, 05:15 PM
 
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LMAO...i'll join you
Well bring a guitar because after the second glass of my last batch, there won't be much "thinkin" being done.

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I don't think that our man Bush even realizes that he is a decendent of the Japhetic tribe. So if he was all trying to protect Israel from Magog, he would have done well to not getting involved in the first place.
The mind of George W Bush is something I'd rather not even attempt to fathom, as for one, it would likely bring me nightmares and secondly make me a cider addict.

However, this does weigh heavy on me as the very notion that the United States has possibly went to war over the Presidents beliefs in end time prophecies is something that brings me no comfort. I can just see the various press releases now in Al Jezeera et al, that the Iraq war was really a holy war as some extremist suggested. This is just rather chilling and I"m hoping that Chirac had too many glasses of wine and is full of it, but sadly, this may not be the case.
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