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Post proof....and it can't be in the form of a cartoon....
"The interviewer asked if Tiller ever rejected a patient. Dr. McHugh said he'd seen no such records. "I'm saying that looking at these records, and what they were employed to do, I can't imagine that anyone wouldn't satisfy those criteria." He added, "From these records -- anybody could have gotten an abortion if they wanted one."
"In 1987, the AGI conducted a survey of patients in 30 abortion facilities in which at least 400 abortions were performed annually and in which they performed abortions at 16 or more weeks of gestation.[14] The 30 abortion facilities represented each of the 4 regions of the country and the average patient response rate was 80%. Of the 1900 women in the survey, 420 (22.1%) had been pregnant for 16 weeks or more. When asked about the most important reasons for their delay in having an abortion, 71% reported that they did not recognize that they were pregnant or misjudged gestational age. Forty-eight percent had difficulty arranging for the abortion (particularly raising money), 33% were afraid to tell their parents or partner, and 24% reported great difficulty deciding to have an abortion. Women having an abortion later in pregnancy were also more likely to report personal health problems, possible fetal health problems, rape, or incest."
Source: Journal of the American Medical Association
I don't think he was a hero - but he continued his highly controversial line of work in spite of incredible dangers to himself and his family and that deserves respect.... I don't think he was an evil man and the work he did he must have been passionate about to respect a woman's right to choose. I mean who better to choose than a mother, it is inside her - not inside the pocket of the lawless religious right.
"he continued his highly controversial line of work in spite of incredible dangers to himself and his family"
You just described a mafia hit man or a heroin mule. Take your pick.
I'm only guessing here, but I can't imagine too many jobs that it took more courage to perform. So if courage is considered a heroic trait, I think you've got to consider it for a moment.
I just realized we agree, but I'm willing to attach the hero label.
If people are against late term abortion or any term abortion... educate young men and young woman - do everything you can to encourage abstinence or birth control... but never encourage murder of a human being and always respect the law....
So no civil rights movement? Dr. King should have given some speeches and left it at that? No Viet Nam war protests that involved burning draft cards or moving to Canada since that would be illegal? No Revolutionary War since that would be treason? Slaves in the South should have stayed put since escape to the North was against the law?
"The interviewer asked if Tiller ever rejected a patient. Dr. McHugh said he'd seen no such records. "I'm saying that looking at these records, and what they were employed to do, I can't imagine that anyone wouldn't satisfy those criteria." He added, "From these records -- anybody could have gotten an abortion if they wanted one."
"In 1987, the AGI conducted a survey of patients in 30 abortion facilities in which at least 400 abortions were performed annually and in which they performed abortions at 16 or more weeks of gestation.[14] The 30 abortion facilities represented each of the 4 regions of the country and the average patient response rate was 80%. Of the 1900 women in the survey, 420 (22.1%) had been pregnant for 16 weeks or more. When asked about the most important reasons for their delay in having an abortion, 71% reported that they did not recognize that they were pregnant or misjudged gestational age. Forty-eight percent had difficulty arranging for the abortion (particularly raising money), 33% were afraid to tell their parents or partner, and 24% reported great difficulty deciding to have an abortion. Women having an abortion later in pregnancy were also more likely to report personal health problems, possible fetal health problems, rape, or incest."
Source: Journal of the American Medical Association
As soon as I find my abacus I'll figure out how long ago 1987 was but meanwhile ,
1.who is Dr. McHugh?
2. links should be credible sources, yours are as hilarious as a cartoon
3.I'm glad women have the choice to get an abortion any time they want despite the attempt by controlling misogynists to take out their sexual frustrations by attempting to control women.
"Medical records subpoenaed by prosecutors in Kansas indicate Dr. Tiller approved some late-term abortions on the grounds that the women suffered from anxiety or depression."
See also: Reasons for abortions. In 1987, the Alan Guttmacher Institute collected questionnaires from 1,900 women in the United States who came to clinics to have abortions. Of the 1,900 questioned, 420 had been pregnant for 16 or more weeks. These 420 women were asked to choose among a list of reasons they had not obtained the abortions earlier in their pregnancies. The results were as follows:[3]
71% Woman didn't recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation
48% Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion
33% Woman was afraid to tell her partner or parents
24% Woman took time to decide to have an abortion
8% Woman waited for her relationship to change
8% Someone pressured woman not to have abortion
6% Something changed after woman became pregnant
6% Woman didn't know timing is important
5% Woman didn't know she could get an abortion
2% A fetal problem was diagnosed late in pregnancy
11% Other
So this accounts for 222% of abortions. Wikipedia needs to do a little editing.
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Originally Posted by Salukifan1
I actually had an ectopic pregnancy which ruptured myself; my left fallopian tube just exploded. I lost both the tube and the corresponding ovary...talk about pain, and I very nearly died. If I'd had a clue, I would certainly have had an abortion. Would you have had me die to "protect" a fetus that was lost when the tube burst anyway? There are more shades of gray in every issue than things being simply black and white, and diametrically opposed.
I'm sorry for your loss. A friend actually had two ectopics. The problem with ectopics is that there's often no evidence that the pregnancy is ectopic until it ruptures. What a ghastly experience.
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Originally Posted by momonkey
"The interviewer asked if Tiller ever rejected a patient. Dr. McHugh said he'd seen no such records. "I'm saying that looking at these records, and what they were employed to do, I can't imagine that anyone wouldn't satisfy those criteria." He added, "From these records -- anybody could have gotten an abortion if they wanted one."
"In 1987, the AGI conducted a survey of patients in 30 abortion facilities in which at least 400 abortions were performed annually and in which they performed abortions at 16 or more weeks of gestation.[14] The 30 abortion facilities represented each of the 4 regions of the country and the average patient response rate was 80%. Of the 1900 women in the survey, 420 (22.1%) had been pregnant for 16 weeks or more. When asked about the most important reasons for their delay in having an abortion, 71% reported that they did not recognize that they were pregnant or misjudged gestational age. Forty-eight percent had difficulty arranging for the abortion (particularly raising money), 33% were afraid to tell their parents or partner, and 24% reported great difficulty deciding to have an abortion. Women having an abortion later in pregnancy were also more likely to report personal health problems, possible fetal health problems, rape, or incest."
Source: Journal of the American Medical Association
Again, the numbers add up to waaaay more than 100%, in this case 176%. Obviously this was a multiple choice question.
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