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No, it isn't fair. It's not fair to Pete the farmer who lives in the county and who rushed through his work for the day so that he could go to a meeting where HIS representative would be there to hear Pete's questions. It's not too fair to June the teacher or to Diane the hairdresser who arrive at the meeting to find they cannot get in because instead the hall is filled with people who don't live in the district and have no interest in what the representatives say.
The unions are simply reinforcing the bad behavior of the people who are opposed to health care reform and think this is a great strategy. Who pays the price? Pete and June and Diane do. Their opportunity to talk to the representative they elected into office has been destroyed.
Nor is it fair to bus in protesters from outside the district now is it?
That's the biggest "IF" I've heard on this forum in a while.
But it WILL result in somethng else. It will merely give the Congressman an opportunity to "misunderstand" the question yet again, and provide a canned response that (once again) does not answer the question.
And again. And again. Until time runs out and he regretfully has to close the proceedings, but thank you for this opportunity to hear your views and explain my position.......
You people who think the Congressman is there to answer the questions of people who disagree with him, are almost laughably naive. Have you seen NO new or opinion shows where these people show up and do exactly what I described, time and again?
They are there to get votes and push an agenda, which in their case is usually a socialist one. When people show up who don't want that particular agenda, their tactic becomes one of stalling, diverting, and often lying as I have described.
My poin in this thread, is that the people who have had these tactics up to here, have decided to not let the Congressman get away with it any more. They can't chage what he says (nor should they be able to), but they can keep him from telling the more flagrant lies. And they are doing exactly that... plus letting the TV audience know that there is a lot of REAL opposition to the socialist agenda these people are pushing.
As I said, the *** is up. These people can no longer get away with their lies. Every time they try, they will be publicly laughed at and derided. And the people watching on TV, will know exactly why... more lies about protesters being "bought, paid for, and shipped in" won't be believed either.
The Congressmen have made their beds with their continuing diversions and deceit. Now they must lie in them... or make up a different bed.
I'm not naive at all. I actually go to the city council meetings in my town, and I love the city planning meetings. Bring popcorn and coke and be ready to have a good time. I know all about shouting and people getting upset and people storming out. Because I actually attend these meetings. And you know what, trying to drown out the answers of the elected officials by shouting and chanting doesn't look like you're interested in the answers. And if you're not interested in his answers, what are you interested in? Silencing him so that the rest of us cannot hear those answers. You know what, we're actually quite as bright as you. We can actually evaluate for ourselves if what we are hearing is the truth or not. We can actually make up our own minds. You don't need to protect us from the lies. Unless there's another reason why you're trying to silence these people?
I'm not naive at all. I actually go to the city council meetings in my town, and I love the city planning meetings. Bring popcorn and coke and be ready to have a good time. I know all about shouting and people getting upset and people storming out. Because I actually attend these meetings. And you know what, trying to drown out the answers of the elected officials by shouting and chanting doesn't look like you're interested in the answers. And if you're not interested in his answers, what are you interested in? Silencing him so that the rest of us cannot hear those answers. You know what, we're actually quite as bright as you. We can actually evaluate for ourselves if what we are hearing is the truth or not. We can actually make up our own minds. You don't need to protect us from the lies. Unless there's another reason why you're trying to silence these people?
I agree.
I want to hear what someone says. I want to hear the truth. I want to hear the lies. If someone prevents me from hearing something and just want me to trust THEM that it's all BS, I have a problem.
Nor is it fair to bus in protesters from outside the district now is it?
Freedom of speech sucks huh. Better get the union thugs, or better yet, a few Black Panther members with clubs, and full Black Panther uniforms and black berets, to intimidate people from even entering the town hall meetings.
All we have are some suspicions from democrats that their town hall meetings may have had a few people who organized, I'd wager 99% of all the people at these meetings are just regular folk. But Pelosi refers to them as Nazis and hired goons. So the democrat response is to get their own goons to intimidate anyone who opposes 0bama care?
What the hell is going on here? What national Republican Party member has asked for hired republican goons to do anything? And yet, we have the democrat leadership requesting union thugs to infiltrate town hall meetings.
Tell me, were the elderly people here flown into this AARP meeting about health care? Do you, like Pelosi, see any swastikas? Could it just be that all over the country, we are just seeing average people who are sick and tired of 0bama's form of government?
Could it just be that people are becoming agitated, and annoyed at being told by partisan hacks and snobs, that they just don't know what's good for them, and must accept 0bama-care?
No, it isn't fair. It's not fair to Pete the farmer who lives in the county and who rushed through his work for the day so that he could go to a meeting where HIS representative would be there to hear Pete's questions. It's not too fair to June the teacher or to Diane the hairdresser who arrive at the meeting to find they cannot get in because instead the hall is filled with people who don't live in the district and have no interest in what the representatives say.
The unions are simply reinforcing the bad behavior of the people who are opposed to health care reform and think this is a great strategy. Who pays the price? Pete and June and Diane do. Their opportunity to talk to the representative they elected into office has been destroyed.
I agree DC, no matter who is there to talk at a Town Hall Meeting the people who do the disrupting are hurting the people who are there to find out where their representatives stand. Sooner or later people are not going to come and talk and they are not going to vote. They are going to be cynical and angry (oh wait is'nt that where we are now?) and believe any trash that is thrown at them on the TV where the REAL LIARS ARE FIGHTING FOR RATINGS.
In a memo sent out on Thursday, AFL-CIO President John Sweeney outlined the blueprint for how the union conglomerate would step up recess activities on health care reform and other topics pertinent to the labor community. The document makes clear that Obama allies view the town hall forums as ground zero of the health care debate. It also uses the specter of the infamous 2000 recount "Brooks Brothers" protest to rally its members to the administration's side.
But the unions in many cases are against the three bills now be put by the democrats. That is what killed the fundig by taxing employer benefits was the unions.They are going to really protect private insurance given by employers and could careless about the government plan as they have shown.But then unions are really now a small part of teh working empoyed;nothing like they use to be.
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That is so true
