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Old 08-08-2009, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Sure and I heard about Palin being hung in effigy by liberals.
yeah, but that doesn't count. She is a stupid conservative so that is ok for libs to do.
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:04 PM
 
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Good grief people look at where this country is heading.. it doesn't even have a whole lot to do with Obama himself it is the politicians from many years back. Republicans or Democrats they all tell us what we want to hear and then do it the way they want. No WE the people should NOT shut up...WE didn't cause this mess.
He was NOT saying the people caused it and he was NOT saying the people should shut up!
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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He's talking about the health care industry and the right wing media which are feeding these crazy lies to the people.
Has he explained where the money to fund that program is supposed to come from? I haven't hear that yet.
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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why do you all like to pretend you're victimized? You surely know the truth by now in your hearts about this "get out of the way" thing but you just cling to the romantic image of yourselves as oppressed and likely to be chased and persecuted any day now. What a strange psychology.
Are you saying that I am a racist because I refused to vote for him. I just voted for what I saw as the least evil of the two and neither of them was acceptable to me.

I don't feel victimized yet but I may if they pass anything as bad as the health insurance bill as I see it now.

You are one of the most reasonable libs here so it is hard to take exception to most of what you say when you are trying to be reasonable, but I do try.
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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who sicced them on the guy?
I don't know but I do know that SEIU is the enforcer for that one group that slips my mind right now. They are in favor of single payer and I hate the thought of that.
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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He was NOT saying the people caused it and he was NOT saying the people should shut up!
It sure sounded to me like he was talking to me and others who supported Bush. I voted for him, you know.

I have only voted for three losers since my first time and that was 1956. My man lost that year and then with nobody to choose in 1976 I voted for Ford as the least evil of the two and last year I would have skipped if it weren't for the Dems controlling Congress. I wonder how they will maintain that control through 2010. Do you have any ideas? I wonder if they will try to take the vote away from all people over 65. Then I could feel victimized.
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:21 PM
 
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Has he explained where the money to fund that program is supposed to come from? I haven't hear that yet.
well, there's this:

Obama plan to pay for health reform - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090613/pl_politico/23697 - broken link)
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:44 PM
 
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He's talking about the health care industry and the right wing media which are feeding these crazy lies to the people.
You might want to be more specific than just blaming the "health care industry" on feeding the lies. Health care unions and the AMA are behind him and big Pharma just announced they will spend $150 million in ads supporting the healthcare plan( Obama will continue the Bush era refusal to allow volume discounts on meds purchaed via Medicare and will continue to bar importation of cheaper drugs, both scenarios which will continue huge profits for big pharma and more out of pocket expense for the American consumer)
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:21 AM
 
Location: California
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You might want to be more specific than just blaming the "health care industry" on feeding the lies. Health care unions and the AMA are behind him and big Pharma just announced they will spend $150 million in ads supporting the healthcare plan( Obama will continue the Bush era refusal to allow volume discounts on meds purchaed via Medicare and will continue to bar importation of cheaper drugs, both scenarios which will continue huge profits for big pharma and more out of pocket expense for the American consumer)
No more specifics needed because the point was Obama wasn't telling "we the people" to shut up and get out of the way. End of story.
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:32 AM
 
Location: southern california
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It not what hussein obama has done FOR the country, it is what he has done TO the country.

I have never seen a president that attacks and singles out citizens like he does. I NEVER thought I would see a president go on foreign soil and disrespect the very country he is supposed to represent. I NEVER thought I would see a president bow to a King of a foreign land where the people that attacked this country came from.

He is no leader and he has no class.
then you have not been observing the oval office for the last 8 years.
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