Mention of God in Everone of Our State Preambles to Their Constitutions. (Limbaugh, Israel)

[Bluefly]

Originally Posted by tech2enable

Exactly, that's usually true, a muslim doesn't believe that Jesus is the Son of God or is God, a Christian believes otherwise,

you can't say well both are correct, otherwise you have no creed or basic tenet of faith, sure there is diversity in religions,but there are rules and creeds and core beliefs.

But you do still have a higher power we refer to as God - and that alone is all that is ever mentioned or discussed on our money and in our founding documents.

Anybody who reads into that word "God" some support of a specific religion is really ignorant of why our country was founded and the principles upon which it was founded. They are so locked into their own religion that they have actually convinced themselves that God is a Christian. The founders sought to provide people the freedom to pursue any spiritual path they wanted, as many founders were not Christian and some - such as Jefferson - were adamently opposed to the efforts by Christians to control the new government.

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law." - Thomas Jefferson

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

I really don't know about that. The Muslims pray to Allah and the Hebrews pray to Jehovah and a myriad of other names. Some people believe that there is a strong resemblance in the god of the three religions but I think that only the Christians call their deity, God. I could be wrong though.

Amazing display of intellect here. So, what do you think non-speaking Christians call their "deity"? God?

And no, we're NOT a Christian nation. When it comes to religion, we're better off being closer to India (NOT a Hindu nation, despite of 80% of the populace being Hindu) than Afghanistan. But you're likely to disagree.

[FlyDrive100b]

Originally Posted by Bluefly

But you do still have a higher power we refer to as God - and that alone is all that is ever mentioned or discussed on our money and in our founding documents.

Anybody who reads into that word "God" some support of a specific religion is really ignorant of why our country was founded and the principles upon which it was founded. They are so locked into their own religion that they have actually convinced themselves that God is a Christian. The founders sought to provide people the freedom to pursue any spiritual path they wanted, as many founders were not Christian and some - such as Jefferson - were adamently opposed to the efforts by Christians to control the new government.

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law." - Thomas Jefferson

Yes, I am not sure I am following the argument here, if its about religion itself and people or religion in law. If you notice the various sects and divisions in the history of the world especially in Christianity one would be wise not to inject religion into politics as "conservatives"suggest.

Some conservatives say what Jefferson said, is his personal opinion and should be ignored (aka Laura Ingram) , however history shows otherwise

[FlyDrive100b]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

Amazing display of intellect here. So, what do you think non-speaking Christians call their "deity"? God?

If you study theology, God can conform to many things, although it usually refers to a supreme being, some people refer to GOD as a being that just leaves people alone, an statue can be called "GOD".

You bring up an interesting point, what do other languages call "marriage"? As for as the gay marriage v. "civil union" debate, I doubt hebrew and greek translate directly into the word marriage, it can mean union, so much for the hypocrisy of religious zealouts not knowing what they are talking about and politics who try to appease them. In Islam marriage can be called different things, same as other religions, in fact religious marriage is different from civil marriage and organizations try to work on alternatives to market projects.

And no, we're NOT a Christian nation. When it comes to religion, we're better off being closer to India (NOT a Hindu nation, despite of 80% of the populace being Hindu) than Afghanistan. But you're likely to disagree.

Umm, no India is a Hindu country, although not as intertwined as Nepal, Hinduism is still very much influenced in the constitution,
In India you are not allowed to kill cows, for example and religious customs are strongly enforced even off the books.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by Peggy Anne

I am glad that some states use different wording. I prefer the great provider. That conjures up non religious images for me, if I want to see the energy my own way. Humans don't have to be stuck in a deep rut about these things. I believe the 3 "main" religions believe in the God of Abraham. They can have that one. My god never had an angry moment.

You may "prefer" the "great provider" but the fact is, the name GOD is used.

[ZGACK]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

For some reason every one of our states mentions God in their preamble. Our President told the Muslims in Cairo that we are not a Christian nation and I am wondering when he will change any of these preambles. Maybe the ACLU may come up with something to change the wordiing.

I took this list from a new website, well new to me, called Mommylife. It is written by a former activist of the Ayers days who managed to change her beliefs after marrying another drug addict who she met in a drying out place. The site is written by Barbara Curtis and you can access it by using this URL.


Mommy Life



50 State preambles affirm belief in God

Despite claims to the contrary - even by our current president - this IS a Christian nation. We claimed freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. This is a pervasive cry throughout all our founding history and documents.

One of the moms on the Glenn Beck 9-12 Moms show mentioned that every state affirms God in the preamble. That's worth knowing, so I'm rerunning my 4/26/07 piece:

Do you know the Preamble for your state?

Alabama 1901, Preamble: We the people of the State of Alabama, invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution. . . .
Alaska 1956, Preamble: We, the people of Alaska, grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land. . . .

Arizona 1911, Preamble: We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution. . .

Arkansas 1874, Preamble: We, the people of the State of Arkansas, grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government. . .

California 1879, Preamble: We, the People of the State of California, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom. . .

Colorado 1876, Preamble: We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe. . .

Connecticut 1818, Preamble: The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy. . .

Delaware 1897, Preamble: Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences. . .

Florida 1885, Preamble: We, the people of the State of Florida, grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution. . .

Georgia 1777, Preamble: We, the people of Georgia, relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution. . .

Hawaii 1959, Preamble: We, the people of Hawaii, grateful for Divine Guidance. . .Establish this Constitution.

Idaho 1889, Preamble: We, the people of the State of Idaho, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings.

Illinois 1870, Preamble: We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.

Indiana 1851, Preamble: We, the People of the State of Indiana, grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government.

Iowa 1857, Preamble: We, the People of the State of Iowa , grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings establish this Constitution. . .

Kansas 1859, Preamble: We, the people of Kansas, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges establish this Constitution. . .

Kentucky 1891, Preamble: We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties. . .

Louisiana 1921, Preamble: We, the people of the State of Louisiana , grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy. . .

Maine 1820, Preamble: We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity:.. And imploring His aid and direction. . .

Maryland 1776, Preamble: We, the people of the state of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty...

Massachusetts 1780, Preamble: We...the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe, In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction. . .

Michigan 1908, Preamble: We, the people of the State of Michigan, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom establish this Constitution. . .

Minnesota, 1857, Preamble: We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings. . .

Mississippi 1890, Preamble: We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to Al mighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.

Missouri 1845, Preamble: We, the people of Missouri, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness, Establish this Constitution. . .

Montana 1889, Preamble: We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution. . .

Nebraska 1875, Preamble: We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, Establish this Constitution. . .

Nevada 1864, Preamble: We the people of the State of Nevada, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom establish this Constitution. . .

New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience. . .

New Jersey 1844, Preamble: We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.

New Mexico 1911, Preamble: We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty. . .

New York 1846, Preamble: We, the people of the State of New York, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings. . .

North Carolina 1868, Preamble: We the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those. . .

North Dakota 1889, Preamble: We, the people of North Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...

Ohio 1852, Preamble: We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common. . .

Oklahoma 1907, Preamble: Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty:..

Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I. Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences..

Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble: We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance. . .

Rhode Island 1842, Preamble: We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing . .

South Carolina, 1778, Preamble: We, the people of he State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution.

South Dakota 1889, Preamble: We, the people of South Dakota , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties

Tennessee 1796, Art. XI.III: That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience...

Texas 1845, Preamble: We the People of the Republic of Texas , acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God. . .

Utah 1896, Preamble: Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution.

Vermont 1777, Preamble: Whereas all government ought to enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man

Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI: Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other

Washington 1889, Preamble: We the People of the State of Washington , grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution

West Virginia 1872, Preamble: Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God:

Wisconsin 1848, Preamble: We, the people of Wisconsin , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility. . .

Wyoming 1890, Preamble: We, the people of the State of Wyoming , grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties:. establish this Constitution.

After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions, one is faced with the prospect that maybe, the ACLU and the out-of-control federal courts are wrong! Please pass on this information.

Thanks to Martha Sears for sending me this!

Love,

Barbara

Apparently you missed every history class ever offered.

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by tech2enable

Umm, no India is a Hindu country, although not as intertwined as Nepal, Hinduism is still very much influenced in the constitution,
In India you are not allowed to kill cows, for example and religious customs are strongly enforced even off the books.

India is NOT a Hindu country. Nepal is the only Hindu country in the world. And you can get beef in India.

People write constitutions. So some influence of their religious beliefs is expected to show in their work. But then, the ideologies they subscribe to, is often shared by most religions anyway. Having said that, it still doesn't stop them from devising the constitution which is respectful of all believers, regardless of their religion, and of non-believers.That is where the idea of secularism comes. In India, the idea of secularism was instituted by the Muslim emperor Akbar in the 16th century (Din-e-Ilahi) and while it changed over the eons, the framers of the constitution made it a secular nation.

Like anywhere else, however, leave it to the right wing party to try and change that. India is a secular country, with no national religion, and respect for all believers/non-believers in the constitution. Do you have specific examples of these customs you speak of that people must follow?

[sickofnyc]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

Amazing display of intellect here. So, what do you think non-speaking Christians call their "deity"? God?

And no, we're NOT a Christian nation. When it comes to religion, we're better off being closer to India (NOT a Hindu nation, despite of 80% of the populace being Hindu) than Afghanistan. But you're likely to disagree.

Exactly right. The United States was not founded on Christianity...period!
This came up a few days back and I posted this, which cannot make the intent of the Founding Fathers any clearer...

http://www.city-data.com/forum/10985114-post57.html

Don't you people that post this nonsense get the obvious? One of the reasons that people from other countires fled here was to obtain "freedom of religion" that meant ...any religion and a major basis for the founding of this nation as a non secular one. Oh, the ignorance!

The Barbary Treaties 1786-1816
Treaty of Peace and Friendship, Signed at Tripoli November 4, 1796

ARTICLE 11.
As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

[Fred314X]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

For some reason every one of our states mentions God in their preamble. Our President told the Muslims in Cairo that we are not a Christian nation and I am wondering when he will change any of these preambles. Maybe the ACLU may come up with something to change the wordiing.

That's a pretty hefty assumption on your part; the mention of God makes this a Christian nation? Because I notice a lack of references to a specific "Christian God."

[sickofnyc]

Originally Posted by Fred314X

That's a pretty hefty assumption on your part; the mention of God makes this a Christian nation? Because I notice a lack of references to a specific "Christian God."

You mean that is not Jesus on the hundred dollar bill?

It was quite evident in the OP that Chrisianity was never mentioned. I suppose that the OP is just being presumptuous.