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That doesn't change the fact that nobody is guaranteed freedom FROM religion in the constitution, only freedom OF religion to practice as you see fit.
The rest is semantics. Address the core issue.
We are free FROM a state sponsered religion.
That doesn't make me from people giving me flyers in my car, or asking me to go to church, or even putting decorations on their house.
However, what it does protect me from, is the Government recognizing one religion as the only true one, from the Government spending my tax dollars to support religious propaganda (like christmas decorations in town), and laws whose only moral base is in a religion that I do not follow.
The topic was that every state preamble mentions the Christian God. However, if anyone would read the damned preambles, there are several that don't mention God, and the Tennessee constitution only mentions it to protect their citizens.
So, if you want to address the blatent falsehood at the very premise of this thread, then by all means do it.
That doesn't make me from people giving me flyers in my car, or asking me to go to church, or even putting decorations on their house.
However, what it does protect me from, is the Government recognizing one religion as the only true one, from the Government spending my tax dollars to support religious propaganda (like christmas decorations in town), and laws whose only moral base is in a religion that I do not follow.
The topic was that every state preamble mentions the Christian God. However, if anyone would read the damned preambles, there are several that don't mention God, and the Tennessee constitution only mentions it to protect their citizens.
So, if you want to address the blatent falsehood at the very premise of this thread, then by all means do it.
I agree with the falsehoods presented at the premise of this thread.
I was simply pointing out that our Constitution does not guarantee anybody freedom from religion.
It is acceptable to say this is a Christian nation in that context and this is the very confusion that existed even back then concerning the difference between the understanding.
Yes, it is acceptable. Like I said earlier, it is a matter of defining the words "Chrsistian Nation". IMO it is enough that majority if citizens define themselves as Christians. Germany is a Christian Nation, Sweden is a Christian Nation and US is a Christian Nation. Mexico is Christian Nation etc....
For some reason every one of our states mentions God in their preamble. Our President told the Muslims in Cairo that we are not a Christian nation and I am wondering when he will change any of these preambles. Maybe the ACLU may come up with something to change the wordiing.
I took this list from a new website, well new to me, called Mommylife. It is written by a former activist of the Ayers days who managed to change her beliefs after marrying another drug addict who she met in a drying out place. The site is written by Barbara Curtis and you can access it by using this URL.
All Christians believe in God but not all people who believe in God are Christians.
What if my religion entailed being free of religion?
Show me the amendment in the bill of rights that says that if you have a faith which entailed being free from religion (which is an oxymoron) then I will concede.
I can show you the amendment which supports my position.
Another interesting factiod - forgive me if its already stated - but Moses and/or the 10 Commandments appear three times in the architecture of the Supreme Court building.
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Originally Posted by Memphis1979
The original pledge of allegiance... "In God we Trust" wasn't added until the Civil War.
I know this. It does not deter from the fact they're on gov't related items. Gov't is religionless, not godless.
I'll give you the swearing in on the bible. I thought you had to. Corrected.
So about this Christian Nation thing. Um, yes we are, you are grossly out of context with the intentions of the Founding Fathers.
Our Founding Fathers separated church from state, but they wisely did not separate God from state; they acknowledged God as the source of our rights, and, in fact, they were careful to place Biblical morality directly into our founding documents and laws, and into our values and culture precisely to help prevent a future of totalitarian or tyrannical rule in America. The combination of keeping Judeo-Christian religious morality in the state, as opposed to the church it's self; and, additionally, setting up our laws based on reason and common sense has contributed to the American Character, and to what is known as "American Exceptionalism."
Atheism's major tenet would demand being free from religion, would it not?
That isn't guaranteed in the Constitution.
Freedom to PRACTICE atheism is.
Your rights end when they infringe on somebody elses.
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