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Old 10-11-2010, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Oh puleeze, where i lived in California the poverty level was $35,000 and a row house cost $1 million. Everyone paid taxes and the Franchise Tax board was always on me for more. That 144,000 figure wouldn't even cover the number in San francisco
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Old 10-11-2010, 02:14 PM
 
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I think Texas is going to be right behind California. They reported recently that 6 out of 10 children is now born into poverty in Texas which of course means welfare handouts, free health care, free everything.

When those that take outnumber those that must give, big problems ahead.
The people of Texas have nobody but themselves to blame for their problems. They put poor children into poorly funded schools and lousy educational curriculums. It's simply wash rinse repeat in terms of the cycle of poverty.
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Old 10-11-2010, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Is Atlas about to shrug ?
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Old 10-11-2010, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The people of Texas have nobody but themselves to blame for their problems. They put poor children into poorly funded schools and lousy educational curriculums. It's simply wash rinse repeat in terms of the cycle of poverty.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Millions of kids are getting a quality education in Texas schools.
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Old 10-11-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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Liberalism is so great, the state goes broke, masses on welfare, schools failing. It's too bad we cannot cut them off.
Can you explain why the states with the LOWEST percentage of high school graduates, and LOWEST incomes seems to be states runned by CONSERVATIVES?

States with the LOWEST % of high school graduates

Texas: 78.3%
Louisiana: 78.7%
Arkansas: 79.2%
West Virginia: 80.9%
North Carolina: 80.9%

States with the LOWEST Income Per Capita
Louisiana: $21,439.21
Mississippi: $25,817.78
Arkansas: $27,152.87
Arkansas: $27,152.87
West Virginia: $27,217.90

States with the Highest % of College Graduates
District of Columbia: 45.7%
Massachusetts: 36.7%
Colorado: 35.5%
New Hampshire: 35.4%
Maryland: 35.2%
New Jersey: 34.6%
Connecticut: 34.5%

States with the Highest Per Capita Personal Income
District of Columbia: $55,994.23 per capita
Connecticut: $47,886.26 per capita
Massachusetts: $44,182.11 per capita
New Jersey: $43,900.93 per capita
Maryland: $41,929.24 per capita
New York: $40,272.29 per capita

Based on your assertions you'd think that liberal states would be at the bottom in terms of education and income and the conservative states would be at the top.
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Millions of kids are getting a quality education in Texas schools.
I lived in Texas for years. Texas high school students receive some of the worst educations in the country. I would NEVER educate my child in a Texas public school. They lead the nation in the LOWEST percentage of high school graduates. I can remember going to college and Texas and seeing large numbers of Texas students totally unprepared to do college level math.

In Texas it's all about real estate taxes in terms of quality of schools. An upper-middle, or upper class kid in Texas can possibly get a good education IF they go to a school district that has the resources and the right administration. A poor kid going to a poor school district is totally **** in terms of quality of education and resources. The upper middle class and upper class Texans are perfectly fine with this. They do everything possible to fight the inequality in resources that poorer kids have to deal with.

The Texas Board of Education which is run by CONSERVATIVES has some of the most ass-backwards curriculum standards in the nation. The crazy standards they have for what goes in a textbook is indicative of this.


Texas adds electives, scales back required classes in high school | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Dallas News on Yahoo! | The Dallas Morning News (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/yahoolatestnews/stories/070709dntextea.41b3180.html - broken link)
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Old 10-11-2010, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The people of Texas have nobody but themselves to blame for their problems. They put poor children into poorly funded schools and lousy educational curriculums. It's simply wash rinse repeat in terms of the cycle of poverty.
Link to show that the schools are "poorly" funded ?
The curriculum is actually pretty good here.

Our biggest problem is that many don't speak English and drop out before graduating. There are more ESL teachers than you can shake a stick at but if the parents don't care (average education of an illegal is 5th grade) there is not much you can do.

Texas is also NOT a big proponent of social passing.
When you fail..you fail.
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:29 PM
 
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I don't know if anyone has pointed this out but...

“144,000 taxpayers pay almost 50 percent of all personal income taxes,”

Those 144,000 represent 2% of all California state revenues, so it is more than a stretch to claim that the remaining population is living off of the largesse of others.

http://www.cotce.ca.gov/documents/co...%20sources.pdf
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I lived in Texas for years. Texas high school students receive some of the worst educations in the country. I would NEVER educate my child in a Texas public school. They lead the nation in the LOWEST percentage of high school graduates. I can remember going to college and Texas and seeing large numbers of Texas students totally unprepared to do college level math.

In Texas it's all about real estate taxes in terms of quality of schools. An upper-middle, or upper class kid in Texas can possibly get a good education IF they go to a school district that has the resources and the right administration. A poor kid going to a poor school district is totally **** in terms of quality of education and resources. The upper middle class and upper class Texans are perfectly fine with this. They do everything possible to fight the inequality in resources that poorer kids have to deal with.

The Texas Board of Education which is run by CONSERVATIVES has some of the most ass-backwards curriculum standards in the nation. The crazy standards they have for what goes in a textbook is indicative of this.


Texas adds electives, scales back required classes in high school | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Dallas News on Yahoo! | The Dallas Morning News (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/yahoolatestnews/stories/070709dntextea.41b3180.html - broken link)
If you lived in Texas then you should know that the rich districts end up sending money to the poor districts.

Robin Hood set out to equalize school districts regardless of RE evaluations.
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:53 PM
 
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I've noticed (in CA) that the Repugs who shout "liberalism" and "socialism" and all their other BS are the same ones who receive most of the benefits of government.

In California, a CALFire retiree receives 110% of his/her salary upon retirement!!! California needs to take a SERIOUS look at State & County employees and the benefits awarded these people.

it is extremely skewed..... and guess what.....MANY of them are right wing Republicans!
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