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Old 03-11-2010, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Just where, on the internet, does one find the complete bill?

I thought this is what Barry said he was going to do. What about the CSPAN coverage? All we get is San Fran Nan saying we have to pass it to find out what is in it, or the "White House summary" of what is in the bill. I am afraid, with the record of this administration, that I would prefer to see the actual bill, rather than the bill as told by Barry.
The Senate Bill.
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (http://dpc.senate.gov/dpcdoc-sen_health_care_bill.cfm - broken link)

What is specifically in the changes bound for Reconciliation are primarily the President's proposed changes and perhaps others. The full text of which will be available after CBO analysis and House approval.
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:52 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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i suggest that everyone take the time to read the CBO report. most of the alleged "savings" are from taxes, penalties, and service reductions, if you read it.

here is the revised report and discretionary costs were not included in the evaluation:
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/113xx/doc...ter_HR3590.pdf
More taxes, more penalties, and more service reductions?

NO THANKS!
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:58 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The Senate Bill.
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (http://dpc.senate.gov/dpcdoc-sen_health_care_bill.cfm - broken link)

What is specifically in the changes bound for Reconciliation are primarily the President's proposed changes and perhaps others. The full text of which will be available after CBO analysis and House approval.
Pass a bill without knowing what will be in the reconciled version?

NO WAY!

Whoever votes for that WILL BE VOTED OUT in November. You can count on it!
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Pass a bill without knowing what will be in the reconciled version?

NO WAY!

Whoever votes for that WILL BE VOTED OUT in November. You can count on it!
This is why they are working on what will be included in Reconciliation now
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'm so glad Pelosi needs to change 10 minds and not just one or two.

That is going to be a tough feat.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I'm so glad Pelosi needs to change 10 minds and not just one or two.

That is going to be a tough feat.
Where are you getting 10 from?? Stupak's claims that have changed five times, that no one else is backing??
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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I'd like to know the full context of the quote, but regardless of whether this particular quote is out of context or not, Pelosi is as about as out of touch with the country and as dangerous as one can be. I'd like to believe that she'll be losing her job come November, but I don't know - the San Francisco crowd seems to love her.
Don't matter, she is doing all she can to ensure that the Democrats will be thrown out this fall. She will be in the minority and more than likely will be replaced by her own...

To rest of us, it is a win/win deal... She is neutered..
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Those who do not have access to healthcare do not receive preventative care.
Who are these phantom people who do not have access to health care, are the living in the wilds of Alasaka, hundreds of miles from the nearest town? Thanks for the straw man argument, its not like you people don't use them as your crutch in every single argument.
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:11 PM
 
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That's the kind of verbal vomit that spews forth when you are "botoxicated" like Pelosi.
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Who are these phantom people who do not have access to health care, are the living in the wilds of Alasaka, hundreds of miles from the nearest town? Thanks for the straw man argument, its not like you people don't use them as your crutch in every single argument.
These are the people you see filling out the majority of bankruptcy claims....
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