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Old 04-21-2010, 01:36 PM
 
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Sorry about the duplicate thread. Newby mistake.
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:38 PM
 
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So i guess those bailouts were a good idea after all as GM didnt fold,people are still employed making cars and GM is paying back the money,,sounds like a win win all around..
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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So i guess those bailouts were a good idea after all as GM didnt fold,people are still employed making cars and GM is paying back the money,,sounds like a win win all around..
I always thought saving jobs at GM was a pretty good idea. Wall Street bailouts not so much.
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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No, Obama's dream was not at all shattered. I've heard him say that he was not interested in being in the auto businesss. Why can't people accept that Obama is absolutely not a socialist? At least real socialists can grasp that he is far from one of them.
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:44 PM
 
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No, Obama's dream was not at all shattered. I've heard him say that he was not interested in being in the auto businesss. Why can't people accept that Obama is absolutely not a socialist? At least real socialists can grasp that he is far from one of them.
Um, I was being just a teensie bit facetious.
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:48 PM
 
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Dont jump to conclusions so fast. Last I heard GM was repaying TARP loans by borrowing money off another branch of government. Its not really a repayment so much as a moving of the debt..
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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General Motors CEO Ed Whitacre will announce Wednesday that the automaker will soon pay off $5.8 billion in loans from the U.S. and Canadian governments.

Whitacre has made paying back the government loans originally due in 2015 a priority.

GM will use the move to highlight its steps toward issuing shares to the public and helping the U.S. government get out of its 60.1% ownership stake in the automaker. GM officials have said the company could break even this year,


GM to pay back U.S. and Canadian loans way early | freep.com | Detroit Free Press (http://www.freep.com/article/20100419/BUSINESS0101/100419058/1318/GM-to-announce-early-full-payoff-U.S.-Canada-loans - broken link)


Will those who said that we'd never see the money returned please stand up.

The government still owns 60% of GM, but when GM goes public again, which they will, the tax payer is looking to make a nice profit on that.
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The government still owns 60% of GM, but when GM goes public again, which they will, the tax payer is looking to make a nice profit on that.
Assuming they find someone dumb enough to buy the stock again. There's an old saying, goes like this:

Fool me once, shame on you,
Fool me twice, shame on me.
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:29 PM
 
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Assuming they find someone dumb enough to buy the stock again. There's an old saying, goes like this:

Fool me once, shame on you,
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Same could be said about Toyota. If all else is equal, I think it's a good idea to support your country's manufacturing industry.
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:31 PM
 
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Assuming they find someone dumb enough to buy the stock again. There's an old saying, goes like this:

Fool me once, shame on you,
Fool me twice, shame on me.
I'll buy the stock again.. They shed all of their debts and passed a large percentage of their retirement liabilities onto the taxpayers.
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Same could be said about Toyota. If all else is equal, I think it's a good idea to support your country's manufacturing industry.
You be patriotic, I'm more interested in return on my investment..
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