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Old 08-07-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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People around the Triangle are very status oriented compared to say Asheville of Wilmington, that's for sure. All the people I know from Asheville describe Raleigh in particular as bougie.

I personally pay no mind and just live however I want, even if they think it's not fancy. Really don't care what other people think.
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Old 08-07-2019, 11:39 AM
 
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I'm Saying that its worse outside Charlotte/Triangle areas.
I’m not sure how much time you spend in Morehead or Siler City or wherever, but no, status-consciousness is barely a thing there.
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Old 08-07-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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People around the Triangle are very status oriented compared to say Asheville of Wilmington, that's for sure. All the people I know from Asheville describe Raleigh in particular as bougie.

I personally pay no mind and just live however I want, even if they think it's not fancy. Really don't care what other people think.
Well, that's a very Ashevillian thing to say...and hilarious considering that Raleigh's household income is $16K higher, yet enjoys housing that's $15/sf cheaper. Asheville is a popular place for hippies, retirees, or those otherwise well-heeled enough to afford a vacation home. It isn't a cheap place to live if you have to work for a living since the employment scene is largely the healthcare system or tourism.

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I’m not sure how much time you spend in Morehead or Siler City or wherever, but no, status-consciousness is barely a thing there.
Respectfully disagree. Those from the educated/professional classes in Roxboro or Wilmington or Clinton are are very much status conscious. I've seen a lot of it, enough that I've really taken note of it.

Two notable instances with Wilmington specifically: A woman who commented "...That's such a common sounding last name" about her soon to be son-in-law; her name was somewhere between "Smith" and "Williams" when it came to how many pages it occupied in the phone book. She meant "It's vaguely ethnic European sounding and you won't see it in First Baptist's Directory." Then another person who largely joined a specific church for purposes of Social Capital.
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Old 08-07-2019, 01:46 PM
 
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It’s possible there is a mini Main Line running through some towns. All I can say is that having family spread throughout the state, I’ve never seen status consciousness of that kind. To be honest, most places lack the two biggest components for this to take hold.
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Old 08-07-2019, 02:48 PM
 
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Well, that's a very Ashevillian thing to say...and hilarious considering that Raleigh's household income is $16K higher, yet enjoys housing that's $15/sf cheaper. Asheville is a popular place for hippies, retirees, or those otherwise well-heeled enough to afford a vacation home. It isn't a cheap place to live if you have to work for a living since the employment scene is largely the healthcare system or tourism.
Doesn't stop young people from looking like they are homeless and getting rid of their car vs. Karen who drives around a Infiniti SUV with a Coach bag just as a status symbol like in the Triangle. Anyone who has been to both cities can tell which one is more about status, and it ain't Asheville.

If you want a good base line between who is more bougie start a discussion about public transit in Asheville then do the same in Raleigh. One of those place will be aghast at the concept of sharing transit with "undesirables" and call it a "boondoggle" and then say "it doesn't make sense". Pretty good measurement of who is more bougie.
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Old 08-07-2019, 03:01 PM
 
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Doesn't stop young people from looking like they are homeless and getting rid of their car vs. Karen who drives around a Infiniti SUV with a Coach bag just as a status symbol like in the Triangle. Anyone who has been to both cities can tell which one is more about status, and it ain't Asheville.
Karen would like to speak with your manager.
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Old 08-07-2019, 03:21 PM
 
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Karen would like to speak with your manager.

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Old 08-07-2019, 03:29 PM
 
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Doesn't stop young people from looking like they are homeless and getting rid of their car vs. Karen who drives around a Infiniti SUV with a Coach bag just as a status symbol like in the Triangle. Anyone who has been to both cities can tell which one is more about status, and it ain't Asheville.

If you want a good base line between who is more bougie start a discussion about public transit in Asheville then do the same in Raleigh. One of those place will be aghast at the concept of sharing transit with "undesirables" and call it a "boondoggle" and then say "it doesn't make sense". Pretty good measurement of who is more bougie.
Asheville has a much more pronounced "haves" vs "have nots" than this area does. It reminds me of Sedona with the homeowners and min wage service workers.

Personally I don't want to share public transit either as it generally attracts undesirables, especially buses. Just my experience in most areas save for maybe NYC and other comparable cities. The wealthier cities generally are better (ie DC subway system) unless you take the transit to said "undesired" areas.

I've never known the Infiniti brand to be a status symbol. Maybe you were being sarcastic...in that case it went over my head .
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Old 08-07-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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Doesn't stop young people from looking like they are homeless and getting rid of their car vs. Karen who drives around a Infiniti SUV with a Coach bag just as a status symbol like in the Triangle. Anyone who has been to both cities can tell which one is more about status, and it ain't Asheville.

If you want a good base line between who is more bougie start a discussion about public transit in Asheville then do the same in Raleigh. One of those place will be aghast at the concept of sharing transit with "undesirables" and call it a "boondoggle" and then say "it doesn't make sense". Pretty good measurement of who is more bougie.
It's just a different kind of arrogance and status measured in a different way. How hoppy is your IPA? How organic is your Garden? Whether its a Coach bag or Kuhl clothing, an Infiniti or a Subaru, it's an outward statement of how cool awesome you are.

I'd agree that Asheville is generally a live-and-let live mentality and that's what makes it cool. But calling Raleigh bougie? I guess if your definition is "Not as hipster/hippie, and not as fun or scenic."
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Old 08-07-2019, 03:42 PM
 
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Asheville has a much more pronounced "haves" vs "have nots" than this area does. It reminds me of Sedona with the homeowners and min wage service workers.

Personally I don't want to share public transit either as it generally attracts undesirables, especially buses. Just my experience in most areas save for maybe NYC and other comparable cities. The wealthier cities generally are better (ie DC subway system) unless you take the transit to said "undesired" areas.

I've never known the Infiniti brand to be a status symbol. Maybe you were being sarcastic...in that case it went over my head .
Especially as it is not only more expensive but less work opportunities.

I like transit and I think trains/light rail is a good idea. But Asheville doesn't have great public transit from what I remember either. Anyhow, its easy for a city like AVL to talk about it because its tiny. The Raleigh area is much bigger and more spread out to boot.
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