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Old 09-25-2020, 10:50 AM
 
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DHHS is adding antigen/probables to the data today. Expect big numbers. I expect just over 50 deaths and about 6000 cases in the data dump between PCR/antigen today.

https://www.ncdhhs.gov/news/press-re...d-19-dashboard
Get ready for the headlines...
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Old 09-25-2020, 10:58 AM
 
Location: 2*** Chelmsford Ct, Cary NC
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DHHS is adding antigen/probables to the data today. Expect big numbers. I expect just over 50 deaths and about 6000 cases in the data dump between PCR/antigen today.

https://www.ncdhhs.gov/news/press-re...d-19-dashboard
They gotta do what they gotta do to get the numbers up.
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Old 09-25-2020, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Where the College Used to Be
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DHHS is adding antigen/probables to the data today. Expect big numbers. I expect just over 50 deaths and about 6000 cases in the data dump between PCR/antigen today.

https://www.ncdhhs.gov/news/press-re...d-19-dashboard

sigh....


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Old 09-25-2020, 11:55 AM
 
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Surprisingly, no major changes
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Old 09-25-2020, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I'm shocked people actually know others who, to this day, claim the virus is a hoax. I mean, I see the RWNJ that anonymously post this in the Politics Forum.

I am interested to know an estimate of homeless people at least at your hospital. How they're classified for NC stats is of mild interest, but why we're (government, shelters, hospitals) not working together to get them out is of greater value.

Yep, unfortunately this is all too common still - family members and patients will tell me, "I'm not sure this corona is real." I then try to explain where do you think this illness is from and they say it's "just a regular cold." Then when I say you will get a COVID-19 nasal swab, they say, "Who made this test? How do you know it's a real test for this corona? The nasal test seems just like any other test to me like that flu test."

Estimated number of homeless people at my hospital REGARDLESS of diagnosis or covid? 20-25%

Now, if they are COVID-19 positive, regardless if they have symptoms or not, fever or not, nobody will take them. Even the homeless shelters in Wake Co don't want these patients. Our hospital keeps them for $1400-1500 a night until they test negative. At a minimum, $1500 x 15 nights for an inpatient stay at an American hospital because we have no other options. Welcome to American medicine.
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Old 09-25-2020, 01:06 PM
 
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Surprisingly, no major changes
Trends all basically the same. Shifts the case lines up a little but basically becomes a major PITA for all tracking metrics since it goes back and mucks with all the data.

Kind of a 'whatever' moment. Although, trying to get the new daily death numbers off of the updated Date of Death chart is making my eyes bleed.
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Old 09-25-2020, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Yep, unfortunately this is all too common still - family members and patients will tell me, "I'm not sure this corona is real." I then try to explain where do you think this illness is from and they say it's "just a regular cold." Then when I say you will get a COVID-19 nasal swab, they say, "Who made this test? How do you know it's a real test for this corona? The nasal test seems just like any other test to me like that flu test."

Estimated number of homeless people at my hospital REGARDLESS of diagnosis or covid? 20-25%

Now, if they are COVID-19 positive, regardless if they have symptoms or not, fever or not, nobody will take them. Even the homeless shelters in Wake Co don't want these patients. Our hospital keeps them for $1400-1500 a night until they test negative. At a minimum, $1500 x 15 nights for an inpatient stay at an American hospital because we have no other options. Welcome to American medicine.

is that 50 homeless people or 200? Or more?

and $1500 seems a bit steep, especially since a 1 night cardiac dept stay at Rx a year ago was billed at $900 for me. Nice hotel!

I'm not trying to nitpick the numbers, but what I am trying to do is figure out how to solve the problem, which is "excessive use of medical resources" when we should be figuring out another way.
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Old 09-25-2020, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Surprisingly, no major changes
Not really, the antibody testing has a pretty short lookback. Probably under a month.
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Old 09-25-2020, 02:16 PM
 
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Not really, the antibody testing has a pretty short lookback. Probably under a month.
The data updates were antigen (rapid tests) NOT antibody. Probably should be doing more antigen testing and less PCR testing anyways.

Just slack by DHHS sitting on these tests for months.
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Old 09-25-2020, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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is that 50 homeless people or 200? Or more?

and $1500 seems a bit steep, especially since a 1 night cardiac dept stay at Rx a year ago was billed at $900 for me. Nice hotel!

I'm not trying to nitpick the numbers, but what I am trying to do is figure out how to solve the problem, which is "excessive use of medical resources" when we should be figuring out another way.

The average number of DAILY homeless patients is approx 175-225. This is an average "in-house" number and a large number to deal with daily. They obviously have no insurance, no means of getting any of the medications we prescribe, no means of getting physical therapy if they need it, no means of any reliable means of long-term medications to treat their medical illness, and no housing nor means of taking their psychiatric medications if that is a large part of their medical treatment plan.

Now add if these unfortunate people get a positive COVID-19 test. What are they going to do? The hospital is nice enough to NOT discharge them to the street - because with a positive COVID-19 test, no homeless shelter, no drug rehab, nobody will take them.

My estimate of $1500 per night is on the cheaper side of a hospital stay per night. Where did you get that $900 figure? Either way, the range is $1400-1600 for 1 night at an inpatient medical bed per night.

Excessive use of medical resources is your issue? Better talk to your government because we in the hospital have F-ing had it. We are helping people with no regards to their ability to pay. I do whatever I need to treat and make this patient in front if me survive and see tomorrow morning. And all you guys here is talk about BS like medical care is a right.
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