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The key here is "that appeals to a prurient interest". From my understating they're not limiting drag around children, they're limiting sexualized drag shows around children. Drag queen story hour fine, drag queen giving someone under 18 a lap dance, not fine. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.
EDIT: Remember when Seinfeld had an entire episode dedicated to Master-bation? And another episode dedicated to unprotected, extra-marital relations (spongeworthy), or Big Bang Theory had an episode where one of the characters got trapped in a robot designed for master-bation? All of those were hillarious, they were all brought INTO PEOPLES HOMES, but I saw nobody proposing laws about banning or criminalizing them. how are they any less bad than a drag show that parents can choose to take their kids to, but have an option to NOT?
Are you ok with parents taking their minor children to strip clubs? Or watching pornography with their minor children?
Ratings have been added to all tv shows. If parents want to sit down and watch a TV-MA rated show with their kids, well that’s weird IMO. Maybe drag shows should come with a rating? Strip clubs don’t allow anyone under 18 due to the sexual nature of course, why shouldn’t it be the same for drag shows that are sexual in nature? I’ll note that even strip clubs that aren’t fully nude are 18+.
I admit that laws about this kind of stuff is sort of all over the place. There’s no fine line, but I don’t think leaving it up to the parents is the correct route to go.
Maybe I'm just old. I grew up in a very liberal town in NJ. Boys never went into the girls room and we never saw a drag show in school. Not even high school. Parents should be the sole decision makers when it comes to what their children see and hear in schools.
Maybe I'm just old. I grew up in a very liberal town in NJ. Boys never went into the girls room and we never saw a drag show in school. Not even high school. Parents should be the sole decision makers when it comes to what their children see and hear in schools.
Are you sure? There are a lot of realllllly dumb parents out there.
Are you sure? There are a lot of realllllly dumb parents out there.
Lots of dumb/strange teachers/administrators out there too. I'll take my chances the parents care a bit more about their own kids. Don't need the state deciding they are our children not theirs.
Are you ok with parents taking their minor children to strip clubs? Or watching pornography with their minor children?
Ratings have been added to all tv shows. If parents want to sit down and watch a TV-MA rated show with their kids, well that’s weird IMO. Maybe drag shows should come with a rating? Strip clubs don’t allow anyone under 18 due to the sexual nature of course, why shouldn’t it be the same for drag shows that are sexual in nature? I’ll note that even strip clubs that aren’t fully nude are 18+.
I admit that laws about this kind of stuff is sort of all over the place. There’s no fine line, but I don’t think leaving it up to the parents is the correct route to go.
I don't think it would be the right thing to do, but I'm still not comfortable with lawmakers being allowed to subjectively decide what is decent or not, that is my point, not for or against LGBTQ, I really don't care about that.
My entire point, make the laws about the activity, and define it in SMART terms. For example: Make a law that says that nudity around kids is not allowed, and then define nudity.
Make a law that says (like TV) that these shows need to have a certain disclaimer or rating system if certain things (nudity, lap dance, or other DEFINED things) happen.
My issue is with making laws that are subjective, and my issue is with laws that single out certain groups, but the same thing is allowed for other groups. Why would that be wrong?
For your own example, wouldn't you rather have the law just address "strip clubs", rather than Drag shows. If Drag shows meet the criteria of the law, then they should be disallowed because they meet certain criteria, not because they have certain participants.
Get my point?
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