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Old 04-15-2009, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Research Triangle, NC
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I know some people think that everyone should live in the city and use public transportation, but not everyone wants to live that way. Many people want to live in the suburbs, away from the city, but still have many amenities. Other people prefer to be as far away from the city as possible in a more country type setting (I can really see the appeal of this). They don't mind commuting, as they gain more of what they want in their home life. Just because someone may have their view of how everyone should live, doesn't mean they have a right to force someone else to live that way. Last time I checked, this was still partly America.
We get that. Rural, suburban, urban, choices, etc. I agree with you.

But the problem has been the mismanaged sprawl that seems to be taking over. I'm pretty sure that the last thing that anyone wants down there is metro-DC-type, willy-nilly sprawl. The poster to which you reply isn't knocking people's choices, but rather the lack of proper infrastructure that may make the area largely uninhabitable.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Middle Creek Township
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We get that. Rural, suburban, urban, choices, etc. I agree with you.

But the problem has been the mismanaged sprawl that seems to be taking over. I'm pretty sure that the last thing that anyone wants down there is metro-DC-type, willy-nilly sprawl. The poster to which you reply isn't knocking people's choices, but rather the lack of proper infrastructure that may make the area largely uninhabitable.

Actually, I think the development here has been done very well overall. Sure, we need a few things here and there, but overall I think it is great here. Cary, for instance, has just about everything one could need so there isn't much of a need to have to leave town if you don't want to. I NEVER need to go to downtown Raleigh or Durham and don't much care to. Contrast that with other places I have lived and everyone had to leave town and drive for an hour to get to anything.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:01 AM
 
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Cary, for instance, has just about everything one could need so there isn't much of a need to have to leave town if you don't want to.
"Jobs"

I like Cary. I'm not anti-Cary. However, I would venture to guess that most people who live there do in fact need to leave Cary five days a week to go to their Jobs in RTP which, while conveinent to parts of Cary is not actually within the town of Cary.

Some food for thought.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:07 AM
 
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I like Cary. I'm not anti-Cary. However, I would venture to guess that most people who live there do in fact need to leave Cary five days a week to go to their Jobs in RTP which, while conveinent to parts of Cary is not actually within the town of Cary.
In fact most of RTP is in . . . Durham. Yikes!!
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:11 AM
 
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Great news for Cary and the surrounding area. More businesses heading this way, along with people and opportunity.

Raleigh tops Forbes list of most-popular metros :: WRAL.com

"HCL is setting up an office in Cary that officials expect to employ 500 people within a few years. Appel said the area's low cost of living also helped the Triangle beat out 19 other locations for the new office.
Atkins said other technology companies also are looking to locate or expand in the area, but he declined to elaborate.
"My feeling is that this market is at the bottom. I think that we are going to see some significant new announcements in growth coming up in probably ... (the) third quarter of this year," he said."
You do realize that HCL is a company based in India.... right? I would like to know if those 500 workers will be Americans or India workers brought in on an HB-1 Visa.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Middle Creek Township
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In fact most of RTP is in . . . Durham. Yikes!!

Actually, it's not in the city of Durham.

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Old 04-15-2009, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Middle Creek Township
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"Jobs"

I like Cary. I'm not anti-Cary. However, I would venture to guess that most people who live there do in fact need to leave Cary five days a week to go to their Jobs in RTP which, while conveinent to parts of Cary is not actually within the town of Cary.

Some food for thought.
You are aware that people actually work in Cary. There is this tiny company called SAS that employees more than 2 people. There are other companies that exist in Cary and on top of that, parts of Cary just about abut RTP. Most People that live in Raleigh and Durham also DRIVE to RTP. People are employed all throughout the Triangle, not just RTP. It is actually possible to live in the town you work in and have it not be a city. For those that do travel to the city or RTP for work, they are making improvements in the road system to help this out. The widening of Davis, the construction of the WWP that should "hopefully" start this summer and more. And again, there are many people that are more than happy to drive 20 to 50 minutes in order to live AWAY from the city and IN the country. Not everyone has their first priority to live within walking distance of work.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:42 AM
 
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I know some people think that everyone should live in the city and use public transportation, but not everyone wants to live that way. Many people want to live in the suburbs, away from the city, but still have many amenities. Other people prefer to be as far away from the city as possible in a more country type setting (I can really see the appeal of this). They don't mind commuting, as they gain more of what they want in their home life. Just because someone may have their view of how everyone should live, doesn't mean they have a right to force someone else to live that way. Last time I checked, this was still partly America.
I never said people shouldn't live where they should want to or that we should force people to live a certain way. This is completely America, but growth should be done in a smart way where the environment is treated well so we don't have polluted waters and the wildlife still has its habitats.

People can live whereever they want to live; just don't complain when gas is over $4.00 a gallon and you (in general) live part of your life in your car.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:56 AM
 
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Actually, I think the development here has been done very well overall. Sure, we need a few things here and there, but overall I think it is great here. Cary, for instance, has just about everything one could need so there isn't much of a need to have to leave town if you don't want to. I NEVER need to go to downtown Raleigh or Durham and don't much care to. Contrast that with other places I have lived and everyone had to leave town and drive for an hour to get to anything.
You act like Cary is in the middle of BFE. I, for one, have lived in a town where it took 1 hour to get to a mall. Actually, when my fiancee and I lived in that neck of the woods, it was a 45-minute drive to the LOCAL hospital. Imagine driving in the car (that would be her) as your significant other (that would be me) riles in pain and agony, making his peace with God, as he tries to figure out what is going on in his body.

Enjoy your commute. Live where you want to live. I have never said you shouldn't live in Cary. What concerns me, other than sprawl, is that people start living in suburbs of suburbs and that the community hasn't had time to build the other necessary infrastructure, such as police & fire departments and hospitals. People tend to think in a narrow view about where they want a home, their vicinity to work, and closeness to schools. They don't think "what if."
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:01 PM
 
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You are aware that people actually work in Cary. There is this tiny company called SAS that employees more than 2 people. There are other companies that exist in Cary and on top of that, parts of Cary just about abut RTP. Most People that live in Raleigh and Durham also DRIVE to RTP. People are employed all throughout the Triangle, not just RTP. It is actually possible to live in the town you work in and have it not be a city. For those that do travel to the city or RTP for work, they are making improvements in the road system to help this out. The widening of Davis, the construction of the WWP that should "hopefully" start this summer and more. And again, there are many people that are more than happy to drive 20 to 50 minutes in order to live AWAY from the city and IN the country. Not everyone has their first priority to live within walking distance of work.
You missed the point (as usual). I don't dispute people have varying wants and desires. I actually live in the burbs too but enjoy downtown Raleigh immensely. Not everyone who lives in the burbs is as narrow in perspective as you.

I am aware that there are employment opportunities in Cary. However, it is disingenuous if not outright ignorant to think that most people work within Cary. It simply isn't true. Most people who live in Cary work in RTP and thus leave Cary everyday to go to work in Durham where RTP is located.

I was simply correcting you your inaccurate statement. Most people need to leave Cary every weekday to go to work.

In closing, I wish you well in your future endeavors and hope you look back on your city-data days fondly. I like to think I've taught you a thing or two about Cary. Actually, I'm positive I have.

You are welcome. Now goodbye.

* hits ignore button *
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