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Old 04-15-2016, 01:26 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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where I live, mid-century modern and modest ranches and craftsman bungalows are sought after. Those Waco houses are just horrific
Texas (and Florida) builders are notorious for applying these ridiculous over scaled entry designs with wagon wheel transom windows above and "columns" slapped on willy nilly all around the facade of an otherwise standard designed and constructed move-up tract home. Add in an overly complex roof with multiple gables, arches and turrets thrown about and you've got yourself a straight-up mess!

Note: apparently proportion and entasis doesn't exist in Texas (the hard and fast design rules of a column). This is called getting your house wrong, very wrong.

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Old 04-15-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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nice attempt, but still looks cheaply made.. if you have an eye for it, you know how cheaply it's constructed to look expensive. builders have developed an art for that.

here's real architecture...

http://devlinarchitecture.com/wp-con...12/Werner1.jpg
That's spectacular but we don't all have $10 million or whatever that cost. It is 6 times the size of my roughly $750,000 house.

Modern construction is *much* better than all but the best historic construction. As an owner of a historic (1893-94) house, I'll warn you that to maintain an old house you need a lot of money and a lot of skill. New electric - $30,000. New plumbing - $50,000. And so on.
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Old 04-15-2016, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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That's spectacular but we don't all have $10 million or whatever that cost. It is 6 times the size of my roughly $750,000 house.

If you buy the Chinese knock-off Rolix watch, because you can't afford a genuine Rolex watch, then show it off on the internet and ask people to tell you how great they think it is, you should expect to get some less-than flattering remarks from people who know the difference. If you can't afford a Rolex, it's usually best to buy the best you can afford, not a cheap look-a-like. (to be clear, I don't think the OP, or anyone else on this thread has done that)


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Modern construction is *much* better than all but the best historic construction. As an owner of a historic (1893-94) house, I'll warn you that to maintain an old house you need a lot of money and a lot of skill. New electric - $30,000. New plumbing - $50,000. And so on.

There have been many threads debating this, and no one ever convinces anyone on "the other side" to change their mind. However, if you paid $50k to have the plumbing in your home replaced, I think you got ripped-off!
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Old 04-15-2016, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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they call these monstrosities
I wouldn't say this is necessarily bad, but 'overdone'.


I would have gotten rid of the trees in the front yard.

I would get rid of the plants edging the walkway.

I would get rid of the metalwork on the front door and keep frosted or rippled glass.

I would get rid of the weird spirally things under all the porchlamps.



I think it'd be more attractive if it were more simplified. As it is, it's too 'busy', and the eye gets distracted.
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Old 04-15-2016, 04:30 PM
 
Location: WA
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Texas (and Florida) builders are notorious for applying these ridiculous over scaled entry designs with wagon wheel transom windows above and "columns" slapped on willy nilly all around the facade of an otherwise standard designed and constructed move-up tract home. Add in an overly complex roof with multiple gables, arches and turrets thrown about and you've got yourself a straight-up mess!

Note: apparently proportion and entasis doesn't exist in Texas (the hard and fast design rules of a column). This is called getting your house wrong, very wrong.
Honestly, it's not the builders fault, it's the buyers. Texans and Floridians to be specific. Just walk into any of those houses and look at how they are decorated, or cruise through the interior photos of the listings.

When builders do put up nice modern proportioned stuff it doesn't sell because there is no grand 2-story entrance with a grand staircase for the prom photos. I kid you not.
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Old 04-15-2016, 04:35 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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Honestly, it's not the builders fault, it's the buyers. Texans and Floridians to be specific. Just walk into any of those houses and look at how they are decorated, or cruise through the interior photos of the listings.

When builders do put up nice modern proportioned stuff it doesn't sell because there is no grand 2-story entrance with a grand staircase for the prom photos. I kid you not.
Haha

You've got to have a big entry and staircase to showcase big Texas hair!
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Old 04-15-2016, 04:40 PM
 
Location: NY/LA
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I think it looks fine, and I also think that people should build what they like and/or need. It's their property and their home.

If it sticks out, I don't think it's a big deal. Neighborhoods can change and evolve, like everything else.
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Old 04-15-2016, 04:48 PM
 
Location: los angeles county
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I would have gotten rid of the trees in the front yard.

I would get rid of the plants edging the walkway.

I would get rid of the metalwork on the front door and keep frosted or rippled glass.

I would get rid of the weird spirally things under all the porchlamps.

those are all just landscaping details.

The complaints are about the aesthetics and size of the buildings themselves.

I personally think luxury homes are nice to look at.
I would certainly not want a neighborhood to remain all 1950s tract home stucco boxes for the next 100 years.
These aren't the kinds of homes that have historic value. These 1950s homes were built suuper cheap, and were not meant to last 100 years.

Beverly hills has uglier homes.
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:27 PM
 
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Unless you have six kids there is no reason to have a home that large - large is tacky and out - people are into smaller homes these days -
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:42 PM
 
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To me, the houses like that in the first post remind me of women who wear fancy clothes, fancy jewelry, carry a fancy bag, tuck a poodle in their purse, etc. Too much emphasis on appearances and it ends up looking like they're trying way too hard.

To each his or her own, but I just don't understand people who are like that. I also don't understand having a giant house unless you have 10 kids or other live-in relatives. Walking through 20 feet of open space in the living room to get to the couch makes no sense.

The ranch that the 'monstrosity' replaced looks great to me.
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