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While I do think her judgment was off in sending that document out to her friends, I also think she's going to pay a price for it for much longer than most people do when it comes to the folly of their youth.
I've gotta hand it to you, Babee. You've pointed out something that a lot of folks have overlooked: This mistake of hers is not the sum of her life, nor is it the only side of her. It takes a certain amount of grace to see that.
While this is certainly true, the nature of what this woman did sort of makes it hard for people in general to see beyond her mistake (which, indeed, is a huge one) or any side of her beyond the angry, trashy, irresponsible, selfish, out of control person she seems to be projecting to the rest of the world.
Betcha didn't even recognize the irony of your post as you typed it out, did ya?
I don't feel wrong for slamming people who feel the need to slam others flippantly for their own gratification. People who aren't gracious don't deserve others' graces.
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At any rate, this wasn't just a simple mistake or a lapse of judgment, this was a planned, calculated process two years in the making that involved the humiliation of 12 other people. Some "mistakes" deserve scorn. This is one of them.
Planned? Calculated? You really fail to make your point when you have to overstate your case. What exactly was planned and calculated about her getting drunk and hooking up with people? Are you attempting to imply that she went about each encounter with the intent to someday compile these encounters in order to humiliate people? Gimme a break.
I agree. As you said, I don't find her attractive at all. Seems like she knew where to go to see the lacrosse and baseball athletes drunk and was able to seduce them into sleeping with her. When your drunk, it's easy to do. I wonder if she would of been successful in doing it when they're in a sober state of mind.
The scary part is her Linkedin profile:
Karen Owen - LinkedIn (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.linkedin.com/pub/karen-owen/15/a13/821 - broken link)
She's even rating male birds!!!
May 2008 — July 2009 (1 year 3 months)
Was selected as a lab assistant; researched correlations between feather color and aggressive behavior in female tree swallows using a spectrometer Determined indicators of male quality in tree swallows through analysis of song patterns
Developed skills in statistical testing methods
There's some other funny stuff in her LinkedIn profile:
Sports Information Assistant
Duke Dept. of Athletics
(Events Services industry)
August 2007 — May 2008 (10 months)
Responded to the inquiries and concerns of donors via telephone
Recorded, organized, and evaluated individual and team statistical records for numerous athletic events
Researched opposing teams and compiled analyses and written reports
There's some other funny stuff in her LinkedIn profile:
Sports Information Assistant
Duke Dept. of Athletics
(Events Services industry)
August 2007 — May 2008 (10 months)
Responded to the inquiries and concerns of donors via telephone
Recorded, organized, and evaluated individual and team statistical records for numerous athletic events
Researched opposing teams and compiled analyses and written reports
U gotta give it to her. She's great at spreadsheets.
While this is certainly true, the nature of what this woman did sort of makes it hard for people in general to see beyond her mistake (which, indeed, is a huge one) or any side of her beyond the angry, trashy, irresponsible, selfish, out of control person she seems to be projecting to the rest of the world.
Or that the rest of the world is blowing out of proportion because she happened to have gotten caught.
Here's an interesting viewpoint:
Scandals at Duke say nation still can't have an honest talk about sex (http://tri-statedefenderonline.com/articlelive/articles/5344/1/Scandals-at-Duke-say-nation-still-cant-have-honest-talk-about-sex/Page1.html - broken link)
I don't feel wrong for slamming people who feel the need to slam others flippantly for their own gratification. People who aren't gracious don't deserve others' graces.
And boy, it sure is one hell of a gracious woman you're standing up for.
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Originally Posted by xxbabeechick
Planned? Calculated? You really fail to make your point when you have to overstate your case. What exactly was planned and calculated about her getting drunk and hooking up with people? Are you attempting to imply that she went about each encounter with the intent to someday compile these encounters in order to humiliate people? Gimme a break.
Considering she spent years targeting a very specific class of people, kept detailed notes, named them by name, gathered up pictures of them, took the time to compile it all into a 42-slide PowerPoint presentation that leaves very little to the imagination, and then sent it out over the internet... yeah, I'm reeeeaaally reaching to state my case.
The only aspect one could even consider just a bone-headed lapse of judgment was believing that once it got out over the internet it would remain confined to a small circle of recipients. And given the meticulous nature of the rest of her "project," I have a hard time believing a putatively bright young lady who grew up in the electronic age was naive enough to believe that. The minute she clicked that "send" button she knew damn well there was at least a good chance if not a near-certainty this was going to leak well beyond the "circle of friends" or whoever it was sent to. This broad is not a particularly sympathetic character in this dark comedy.
What bothers me most is the fact that this girl, supposedly in hiding and ashamed is a graduate of one of our nation's finest universities. Doesn't everyone under the age of 60 these know that every thing you send or post on the internet with your name on it can be sent to the whole wide world? I don't really give a damn if she had sex with 4000 guys at once and measured all their penises to a 100th of a nanometer. If these are the kinds of kids getting into Duke, our country is in trouble.
Even her LinkedIn profile seems like that of someone with no depth and not too bright.
May 2009 — July 2009 (3 months)
assisted in basic first-aid treatments; scrubbed in on multiple surgeries at Saint Raphael Hospital; learned to take and interpret X-Rays
She thinks a 3 month student observer stint is all the qualification one needs to take and interpret X-Rays? She majored in history but is passing herself off as a health care professional.
As far as finest universities - a lot of them overlook academics if the parents have the money, the money of the parents being the main admission criteria.
I don't feel wrong for slamming people who feel the need to slam others flippantly for their own gratification. People who aren't gracious don't deserve others' graces.
Planned? Calculated? You really fail to make your point when you have to overstate your case. What exactly was planned and calculated about her getting drunk and hooking up with people? Are you attempting to imply that she went about each encounter with the intent to someday compile these encounters in order to humiliate people? Gimme a break.
She planned and compiled. She even managed to collect photos of these men she hooked up with. She must have been keeping some sort of diary or taking notes as she was able to provide quite specific information on the lines they used to pick her up, how long the act lasted, and their measurements. These were one night stands mind you.
She planned and compiled. She even managed to collect photos of these men she hooked up with. She must have been keeping some sort of diary or taking notes as she was able to provide quite specific information on the lines they used to pick her up, how long the act lasted, and their measurements. These were one night stands mind you.
She was most definitely keeping track.
She probably collected those from social networks at the moment she decided to set up her mock thesis. I find it utterly ludicrous the idea that she was keeping notes for years meticulously plotting to set up a powerpoint presentation that wasn't going to go very far. Most of these hook ups were alcohol induced. No doubt she probably fudged and guessed on details to make it colorful, some she even admits not remembering in the presentation. The assertion that she went to a bar and had casual sex in a concerted effort to humiliate a bunch of people is only telling of the character of people who want to demonize someone they don't even know.
What sounds more plausible? College girl reflecting on years of drunk hook ups decides to make a personally amusing presentation to share with her friends or college girl meticulously planning, note taking and collecting espionage to create a powerpoint to shame a bunch of people?
Plain absurdity.
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