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Decent people are extremely rare. Most men are blithering, rotund, and obtuse bozos.
Nonsense. Decent men are actually quite common. However, if he also has to be decent looking (understand that women consider 80 percent of men to be below average in this respect so how many are merely average?) and have a "decent" amount of wealth (5% in the best neighborhoods and many are just good liars) then she has a real problem.
Since there are anywhere from 3 to ten women going after these prime candidates, they really have no need to be "decent" in other respects and in fact, it is a really rare case when one is.
Since women are jealous of any woman who is so lucky, they are all looking hard for just such a man. Of course, they start with how he looks and whether he appears to have money..........
Nonsense. Decent men are actually quite common. However, if he also has to be decent looking (understand that women consider 80 percent of men to be below average in this respect so how many are merely average?) and have a "decent" amount of wealth (5% in the best neighborhoods and many are just good liars) then she has a real problem.
80% are below average? Sounds like we should be graded on a curve
Nonsense. Decent men are actually quite common. However, if he also has to be decent looking (understand that women consider 80 percent of men to be below average in this respect so how many are merely average?) and have a "decent" amount of wealth (5% in the best neighborhoods and many are just good liars) then she has a real problem.
Ah yes. The tired 80/20 argument, which itself is just a variation of the nice guy/bad boy excuse. This is something that men came up with as a way to cope. It's not my fault. I'm just not in that top 20th percentile. In other words, the problem is women and not the person in the mirror.
Many women just do not put themselves out there. I have a 50/50 split between male/female friends. If your a single female sitting home alone on a Friday night downing double fudge ice-cream and watching the Lifetime channel, that may be the problem.
I mean go to any gym, any auction, any bar/tavern, any outdoor event, and it is a wienie fest.
On the other side, though men put themselves out there more often, I don't believe many have the actually manhood to make a move
Is it really to do with the quality of the men out there or are they simply too picky, holding out for something which does not exist or is so rare in real life? Their criteria often sounds simple enough: someone caring, kind, funny, smart blah blah, these traits aren't exactly rare, yet women complain they can't find Mr. Right or even get a decent date. Fellas, doesn't that annoy you somewhat? They complain because out of the dozens of suitors none meets their lofty standards (or rather, they ***** and moan about the last three when they knew they were getting themselves into ) while a lot of guys can't even find a woman to be abusive to him? lol
Or maybe the other answer, that what you see on TV isn't a real reflection on real life, and is full of women who think they don't really need men, yet constantly whine and complain that they can't find that special someone.
Huge numbers of other wise intelligent men and women seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that they have massively unrealistic expectations wrt their dating options. I see it all the time, woman in her early 30's whining there are no quality men even though she rejects virtually every man who approaches her for some petty reason or another without even giving the poor guy enough of a chance to even introduce himself. These ladies seem to want a guy with a flawless body, a M.D., plenty of money, but have so much spare time he is willing to spend weeks perusing her while she plays little games testing his resolve.
Realistically, if someone wants a partner who is a perfect 10 then they had better be a perfect 10 too other wise it sets one up for a disappointment. Also there are normally tons of great guys which would be perfect for her if she was realistic about needs vs wants in a partner. I thankfully have a great girlfriend but the 30 something women at work drive me batty with their whining about not being able to find a good man even while they reject possibly great men out of hand for the most superficial reasons imaginable (the most recent one I heard wass she didn't like his brand of cellphone, really, she said that to a guy she met at a coffee shop).
People have different ideas of what constitutes decent. A lot of it is shaped by your environment. If all your friends have met great guys who are tall, good looking, make 6 figures, etc., then you'll feel like you deserve a guy who's just as great, if not better. So if you hear a woman (or man) say they can't meet anyone decent, the first thing to ask is what they consider decent and where they got their ideas.
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Huge numbers of other wise intelligent men and women seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that they have massively unrealistic expectations wrt their dating options. I see it all the time, woman in her early 30's whining there are no quality men even though she rejects virtually every man who approaches her for some petty reason or another without even giving the poor guy enough of a chance to even introduce himself. These ladies seem to want a guy with a flawless body, a M.D., plenty of money, but have so much spare time he is willing to spend weeks perusing her while she plays little games testing his resolve.
Realistically, if someone wants a partner who is a perfect 10 then they had better be a perfect 10 too other wise it sets one up for a disappointment. Also there are normally tons of great guys which would be perfect for her if she was realistic about needs vs wants in a partner. I thankfully have a great girlfriend but the 30 something women at work drive me batty with their whining about not being able to find a good man even while they reject possibly great men out of hand for the most superficial reasons imaginable (the most recent one I heard wass she didn't like his brand of cellphone, really, she said that to a guy she met at a coffee shop).
Ha, that sounds worse than a Seinfield skit...People like that are, worlds don't describe...I wouldn't even want someone like that if they wanted me.
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In other words, the problem is women and not the person in the mirror.
