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I think what he meant was that men overwhelmingly prefer the fake look (see Playboy, Hustler, porn, magazines etc.) but then say they want a 'natural' woman. When a natural women is around them though, they do tend to pick on them for not wearing makeup or think of them as 'letting themselves go'. I've experienced that plenty in my life.
Men generally go for the heavily made up, fake women and at the same time say they don't want them.
Fake boobs are gross! Yeah, I went there. And I also find myself constantly commenting on how 'stars' look better without makeup. It might just be me though who knows.
Fake boobs are gross! Yeah, I went there. And I also find myself constantly commenting on how 'stars' look better without makeup. It might just be me though who knows.
With my guy friends, I've noticed that they really don't realize most women are wearing makeup because it's done very skillfully. I had a guy a loooong time ago tell me I looked good bare faced, but was wearing quite a bit of makeup at the time, I came in without any of it and he asked if I was ok because I looked sick.
And I think breast augmentation has it's place, but in general I don't like it.
With my guy friends, I've noticed that they really don't realize most women are wearing makeup because it's done very skillfully. I had a guy a loooong time ago tell me I looked good bare faced, but was wearing quite a bit of makeup at the time, I came in without any of it and he asked if I was ok because I looked sick.
And I think breast augmentation has it's place, but in general I don't like it.
You could be right that they might be faking the no makeup look, but some of my old girlfriends weren't faking it and I really preferred some of them plain Jane. Like I said though I might be weird.
Plus, some women are naturally endowed and not fake.
Yes, but some guys want women that are naturally smaller to get "fixed", the bigger the taataas the better, but I think those enormous ones are ugly.
If nature gave her A's, FINE, if nature gave her DD's, fine too, there is no need to get enhanced, unless she wishes to correct a surgical removal, or whatever.
I guess there are worse things. I know there are worse things. In fact, there are worse aspects of my own life.
But, darn, I'm sick of this. Every time I see a woman that's interesting to me, I'm too scared to ever approach her.
Of course, I never talk to anybody anyways, have no hobbies other than watching TV and surfing the internet.
But I see a couple of women in places where I go, and one or two of them smile at me, but I have no courage to do anything more than smiling back.
I just figure there's no way any of them would be interested in dating me, so I might as well save myself the embarrassment and stress.
I'm not interested in dating people who are completely unattractive to me. There'd be no point in that. It'd do nothing for me. But, I'm attracted to at least 50% of women my age and up to one decade older, and still I have no hope of ever having a girlfriend. Other guys I know are way more picky than me, so I understand why they don't have a girlfriend. But me, I'm sick of seeing a few women that others would reject and yet still having no courage to talk to them or meet them.
And now all the hot college kids are going to be descending on central PA again, and I'm going to get even more depressed. Summer used to be my time to feel a little less depressed because I didn't have to see all these beautiful young women all the time. But this summer didn't do anything for me. I'm as depressed as ever.
I hate living in this college town dump, a wasteland for anyone who's unmarried and over 24 years old. But I'm stuck here because I can't get a job anywhere else.
I'm sick of this garbage. If I were in a place where there were a lot more women, at least I'd have a chance of maybe getting my courage up someday. But here, where available women are as rare as wolverines, my chances are about the same as winning the lottery.
I'm sick of this rotten luck.
i'm like that too, still single, seriously, i say to myself all the time, why was i not born knowing how to get a girlfriend? why was i not born knowing how to approach girls and talk to them, start conversations with them, overall, "Game", because it seems from the moment guys, males hit puberty, they instinctively, naturally know how to approach and talk to girls, how to attract them, how to get a girlfriend, etc. So do guys either have it or they don't?
Men generally go for the heavily made up, fake women and at the same time say they don't want them.
This isn't true in many part of the Bay Area. The NW, too. The SW, as well, come to think of it. You'll find a different world out there when you move, Jet.
why was i not born knowing how to approach girls and talk to them, start conversations with them, overall, "Game", because it seems from the moment guys, males hit puberty, they instinctively, naturally know how to approach and talk to girls, how to attract them, how to get a girlfriend, etc. So do guys either have it or they don't?
Forget "game". Just talk to women. Don't hang your entire self-esteem on every little "Hi" or chat, just make it ordinary, just part of your day. Chat with people to pass the time, all kinds of people--male, female, young, old. Be friendly. Start a casual, light chat with people in the check-out line, at the coffee shop, in the bookstore, passing someone on your daily walk (if you have one), just smile and say hello. When it becomes 2nd nature, you'll be able to do this fairly effortlessly with women you're attracted to. Do this with random women generally, because you don't know which one you might hit it off with. Just talk to women about anything. The weather, what brand she prefers (check contents of her basket at grocery store), a cool t-shirt she's wearing, how slow the service is that day while waiting in the post office, anything will do! Make it ordinary, instead of extraordinary and intimidating. If you're approaching women regularly like this, weekly, if not daily, it won't be a crushing blow if a bunch don't respond. That's NORMAL. You just move on, keep at it.
Join meet-up groups, a hiking or other weekend sports group, a yoga or meditation class. Volunteer for a political action committee or enviro group. This will give you the opp'ty to observe and get to know women over time, and them--you. Convos happen naturally in these contexts, there's no "approaching" to do, because you're already sharing activities together.
Forget "game". Just talk to women. Don't hang your entire self-esteem on every little "Hi" or chat, just make it ordinary, just part of your day. Chat with people to pass the time, all kinds of people--male, female, young, old. Be friendly. Start a casual, light chat with people in the check-out line, at the coffee shop, in the bookstore, passing someone on your daily walk (if you have one), just smile and say hello. When it becomes 2nd nature, you'll be able to do this fairly effortlessly with women you're attracted to. Do this with random women generally, because you don't know which one you might hit it off with. Just talk to women about anything. The weather, what brand she prefers (check contents of her basket at grocery store), a cool t-shirt she's wearing, how slow the service is that day while waiting in the post office, anything will do! Make it ordinary, instead of extraordinary and intimidating. If you're approaching women regularly like this, weekly, if not daily, it won't be a crushing blow if a bunch don't respond. That's NORMAL. You just move on, keep at it.
Join meet-up groups, a hiking or other weekend sports group, a yoga or meditation class. Volunteer for a political action committee or enviro group. This will give you the opp'ty to observe and get to know women over time, and them--you. Convos happen naturally in these contexts, there's no "approaching" to do, because you're already sharing activities together.
I know but i still need to know how to talk to women, is knowing how to talk to women and approaching them a skill that can be learned, gained? or is it something you have to be born with?
In order to know how to talk to women, you have to know how to talk to people. Talk to women like you would talk to anyone else.
Here's an example.
TJenkins walks up to a woman.
TJENKINS: Hello, how are you.
From there on, the conversation goes on. Also, make her the subject of your conversation. Ask about her. Try not to talk about yourself that much. It doesn't matter how interesting you think your life is or how interesting your life actually is.
THAT MEANS NO TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU WERE STALKED FOR THE PAST 6 MONTHS, TJENKINS! THE LADIES DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT!!!
I know but i still need to know how to talk to women, is knowing how to talk to women and approaching them a skill that can be learned, gained? or is it something you have to be born with?
Can you talk to men? if so then you then you can talk to women. Stop thinking of women as some mystical creature.
Approaching people can be a learned. You should practice, a good icebreaker to talk to men are sports, movies, women & video games. A good icebreaker for women are current events & entertainment. Hang out at mall or bookstore to practice. Just approach people and start conversations. Once you get used to it then itll be easier.
Also read some books about body language, and keep up with current events..
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THAT MEANS NO TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU WERE STALKED FOR THE PAST 6 MONTHS, TJENKINS! THE LADIES DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT!!!
