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Old 01-07-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I started another thread about this Society pressuring women to be anorexic thing.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Yes i have. I'm not a fan of the whole "fat acceptance" movement, but I also don't like when society places unrealistic weight expectations on women via magazines, hollywood culture, etc. If she's hot, who cares what the number on the scale says?

I don't like to see women develop eating disorders. That is sad. If a woman wants an attractive man, she should make an effort to exercise and keep in shape. But no one should have to starve themselves. That is going much too far.

If a guy is dating a woman and pressuring her to starve herself or otherwise develop an eating disorder, then he is a rather awful boyfriend.
Yes, but I exercise and I'm perfectly healthy (well, except for the genetic disorder, but there's not much I can do about that), but I'll never have a flat stomach and I'll always have a wide ribcage which makes me look much heavier than I actually am. Being thin doesn't necessarily mean you're healthy or fit or even exercise or eat right. I've mentioned a model friend down in Southern California several times on this forum who is one of the unhealthiest people I know, but she's thin so people automatically assume she's fit. Yet, people may assume I'm not fit and lazy because I have a poochy stomach.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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That's because your education, your job and your hobbies are not what attracts a man to you. By taking them you, you forced yourself to talk about other facets of yourself. Those other facets about you are obviously attractive to men, which is why you saw so much more attention.



That is probably because you are working a bit too hard to communicate that you are smart, and as such are boring the guy. (You bore everyone when you do this, not just men.) I bet if you were to take it easy and let a man find out about your intelligence over time, you would have better results.
I talk about food, books, politics, pop culture, places to go. People just seem to infer it after a few minutes. Or maybe longer conversations. People seem to like to comment for whatever reason. I try to avoid the topic of where I went to college.

I am sure it is a combo of things. Word choice, phrasing, accent. Some people are a little weirded out.

Good news? As I get older the less often it happens. More people are intrigued these days.

I am on my phone, please forgive the typos.

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Old 01-07-2013, 09:04 PM
 
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This is how it is:
1) Woman A is hot but either only has HS education or dropped out of it and though she's a nice person, she only knows domestic chores/skills and how to procreate.

2) Woman B might not be hot but is cute, works full-time and studies, has passion for certain books involving history, likes watching discovery channel and is also a nice. However, unlike Woman A, she isn't a household expert (well she does know the basic but isn't excellent in that area) and doesn't want kids.

It seems more men would rather go for Woman A than Woman B, though IMO the latter is showing more important qualities. The first one is doing things any of us can do.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:10 PM
 
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This is how it is:
1) Woman A is hot but either only has HS education or dropped out of it and though she's a nice person, she only knows domestic chores/skills and how to procreate.

2) Woman B might not be hot but is cute, works full-time and studies, has passion for certain books involving history, likes watching discovery channel and is also a nice. However, unlike Woman A, she isn't a household expert (well she does know the basic but isn't excellent in that area) and doesn't want kids.

It seems more men would rather go for Woman A than Woman B, though IMO the latter is showing more important qualities. The first one is doing things any of us can do.
Likely Woman A has more important qualities using guy standards as she's hot and can cater to him by cooking for him, cleaning after him, and taking care of their kids.

I doubt guys rate Woman B's education, job status, personality, passion, interests, or hobbies as important qualities unless it's sexual as I don't see most guys fantasizing about the personality of their partner rather what she'll look like and how she'll take care of him.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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Oh come on, are you serious? Have you seen the list of ridiculous standards a lot of women have in their online profiles? I honestly feel sympathetic for JetJockey. She seems like a nice girl who is getting the raw deal. But guys are like a kid in a candy store? Seriously? Most guys have to send out like 30 messages to get 1 response. Guys are more like a broke kid in a candy store with no money to get anything, if you really want to use that analogy.

Women are very picky about things... maybe not looks quite as much, but they are really picky about other things like a guy can't be too clingy, or a guy has to have money, or like 50,291,285 other requirements.
Unfortunately I have seen men be picky beside weight. I've been rejected for many reasons and have had friends rejected by obese men for being chubby.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:31 PM
 
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Likely Woman A has more important qualities using guy standards as she's hot and can cater to him by cooking for him, cleaning after him, and taking care of their kids.

I doubt guys rate Woman B's education, job status, personality, passion, interests, or hobbies as important qualities unless it's sexual as I don't see most guys fantasizing about the personality of their partner rather what she'll look like and how she'll take care of him.
Yeah, type A women find him earlier while the latter is still waiting and waiting.

Even my childhood male friend once stated how he wouldn't care if a woman didn't had an education or was mean to him as long as she's hot, can cook and clean and the sex is good. Talk about shallow. While I'm stuck here waiting for that guy to appreciate me for what I am.

Recent one: was hanging out with a male colleague but it's been over 2 months since he doesn't call me anymore nor even writes on my msn. Most of our conversations were about work, classes, our grades (usually it was me getting higher exam scores than him and at some point, he would just said ''I passes, it was good''), hobbies, a little story about ourselves, etc. I don't know what happened that made him lose interest.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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This is how it is:
1) Woman A is hot but either only has HS education or dropped out of it and though she's a nice person, she only knows domestic chores/skills and how to procreate.

2) Woman B might not be hot but is cute, works full-time and studies, has passion for certain books involving history, likes watching discovery channel and is also a nice. However, unlike Woman A, she isn't a household expert (well she does know the basic but isn't excellent in that area) and doesn't want kids.

It seems more men would rather go for Woman A than Woman B, though IMO the latter is showing more important qualities. The first one is doing things any of us can do.
In your hypothetical scenario, are either of these women funny? And which woman has a higher sex drive and is more willing to please her man?
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Yeah, type A women find him earlier while the latter is still waiting and waiting.

Even my childhood male friend once stated how he wouldn't care if a woman didn't had an education or was mean to him as long as she's hot, can cook and clean and the sex is good. Talk about shallow. While I'm stuck here waiting for that guy to appreciate me for what I am.
I would never EVER want to be with a woman who was mean to me. I don't care if she's the hottest woman on earth.

Anyway, i am sorry to hear you are feeling unappreciated. I definitely can relate to that feeling.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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I think men want to marry more then women care to admit I don't truly believe that all men want to grow old alone. I know some don't care one way another but most of would like to find someone & settle down & grow old with someone else. Too bad some women feel that we can't commit just because they have been burned in the past.

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