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Old 03-09-2013, 06:57 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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California locations by per capita income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Median household income in San Francisco - $71,304
Median household income in LA - 55,476



Middle class has somehow come to mean the top 10% of people
Median income does not equal "middle class" status.

A couple (and definitely a family of 4) with a household income of $55k in Los Angeles is not a middle class and they most likely are not in San Francisco.

Again, you are confusing median income with middle class standing.
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Median income does not equal "middle class" status.

A couple (and definitely a family of 4) with a household income of $55k in Los Angeles is not a middle class and they most likely are not in San Francisco.

Again, you are confusing median income with middle class standing.
I'm sorry. I see no definition of middle class that doesn't involve statistics rather than feelings about what people think they deserve to have.

The term middle class in more colloquial language use may refer to all those individuals who might at one point or another be identified as middle class, as they occupy neither extreme of the socio-economic strata. Most of those with households income between $40,000 and $95,000 identify as "middle class". The term can also be used to describe those at the actual center of the income strata, who may also be referred to as the middle-middle class. There are many different theories on the middle-middle class. The middle-middle class may be composed of those households with annual incomes of 80% to 120% of the national median household income. Persons in this income range could, in accordance to solely economic reasoning, be referred to as the American average. Such households would boast annual incomes ranging from $35,200 to $52,800, and thus be located in the middle of the income range.[13]
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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A couple (and definitely a family of 4) with a household income of $55k in Los Angeles is not a middle class and they most likely are not in San Francisco.

Again, you are confusing median income with middle class standing.


You got that fancy degree from a great university and you still don't understand the concept that you can't make statements like this without any evidence of any kind


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Old 03-10-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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The problem with using the "median" salary info is that the minimum wage earners pull down the averages....

55k in LA is still dog**** money and you ain't living large...yeah, it pays the rent, you drive a used car, but really... it's not all that much....

Bottom line... til you move out here and see, pulling out numbers off of websites doesn't mean much....
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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The problem with using the "median" salary info is that the minimum wage earners pull down the averages....

55k in LA is still dog**** money and you ain't living large...yeah, it pays the rent, you drive a used car, but really... it's not all that much....

Bottom line... til you move out here and see, pulling out numbers off of websites doesn't mean much....
Yup. And 70k is ok for a single young person in the Bay Area. But you are definitely going to want more money if you have a family. It costs 200k to live in a 3 bedroom place in the hood where shootings are at least a daily occurrence. Or you might find a 1 bedroom condo in a marginal area.


I am on my phone, please forgive the typos.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:53 PM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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Yup. And 70k is ok for a single young person in the Bay Area. But you are definitely going to want more money if you have a family. It costs 200k to live in a 3 bedroom place in the hood where shootings are at least a daily occurrence. Or you might find a 1 bedroom condo in a marginal area.


I am on my phone, please forgive the typos.
And if you're ok with a tiny room on Treasure Island where there is nothing to do or see, you can get by with much, much less than 70k .

Damn yuppies.
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:12 PM
 
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If you can date a guy who makes alot of money... Why not? I mean, Not every woman can do this
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:30 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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I really wish the term 'gold digger' would go away. Forever.
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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I really wish the term 'gold digger' would go away. Forever.
I can see why the term would be offensive to some. I think the overuse of it is offensive. But I also think that within the context of a person who pursues relationships based solely on advancing their own interests, the term, though a slang term, is not offensive.
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:35 PM
 
Location: southern california
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she might be a gold digger if you hold a small mirror near here and there is no reflection.
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