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This is my exact thinking (which is why I posted that article about wine and lobster prices). I think it's a subconscious thing that humans (not just women) can't help. I want her to pay for herself not just for me, but for her too. I would rather she know from the beginning if she likes me for me, or if she is being nice to me because I paid for the date.
Definitely. It lets you see the guy up close and real, with all his faults.
Isn't that what this whole discussion is about? And isn't that the hope of the date. I'm wrong for going on dates in the hopes that it could be a relationship? Now you're saying a man also has to pay just to hang out with women even if the outcome is not to have a relationship?
What if the date is not fun for the guy? All of these responses of "you're paying for a good time" ignore that some women are not that fun to be around. But the onus is still on the guy? Or is it then acceptable to ask for money back from a woman who you didn't enjoy?
If some dates are made just as a fun evening out, would you be comfortable if your significant other went on a "hanging out" date with another woman and paid for her but says his only intention is to make a platonic friend and have a fun ....
The goal of a date is the have a good time and leave with a sense of possibility for the future. Not all dates will lead to relationships. I like to think of it a bit like going to a Casino. You play the games hoping to win with an expectation you won't. So don't play more than you are willing to lose, and have fun during the game.
The goal of a date is the have a good time and leave with a sense of possibility for the future. Not all dates will lead to relationships. I like to think of it a bit like going to a Casino. You play the games hoping to win with an expectation you won't. So don't play more than you are willing to lose, and have fun during the game.
So dating to you is a complete gamble where the gambler likely loses? And only the men pay but both men and women get to play? And if a casino does make a woman pay to play the game, she could win but she won't go back because that game won't be worth her effort in the future.
It's easy to gamble when it's not from your pocket. I bet you would play the lottery every week if someone else was paying for it. It's the same mentality right? It only costs $5 so it's not making you broke. You'll likely lose but you'll have a good time imagining what may come of it. And if you do win, all the better, but don't expect it.
The thing is - when it comes to dating and relationships - it's about getting to know someone. It's about compatibility. It's about figuring out if you are just having fun or if you get along with this person enough and trust them enough to let them into your heart. If you are so hung up on dollars and cents - you might be missing out on the bigger picture. You don't have to spend a lot of money on a date - but if you are only paying because you feel like you have to and you end up resenting women and carrying a chip on your shoulder about it - are you really having any fun?
Wrong. Only a gold-digger would not expect to pay her share.
If someone asks.... they should do the paying... if a woman asked me out I'd let her pay.......this assumes that they didn't agree to go dutch on it.....
Guys with this kind of attitude aren't ready to date.
When a gentleman asks a lady out, he pays.
If after a few dates they determine they want to be exclusive, THEN she starts to contribute to their outings.
Were some of you guys left on orphanage doorsteps as babies? I mean, didn't your Dad's teach you this stuff?
I agree... if after a little while the woman wants to pitch in that's fine... I don't have an issue with that... but if a man asks a woman out he should do the paying.... especially at first.... If the woman insists on going dutch, that's fine too, I want whatever makes the date feel comfortable... some people aren't comfortable being paid for, so I can work with that too....
He pays first date; I'm game to split or pay all after that.
I will not go on a second date with a man who feels differently. No apologies.
I agree... I don't care how progressive things get... I'm always gonna pay for the first date and most likely the first few.... after a bit she can chip in... but it's just how I roll.....
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