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I would take all of that, indeed the entire premise of this thread, with a huge grain of salt. Anyone who thinks marriage will disappear needs to take a good look at the wedding industry.
I always see this on this forum. "The marriage industry is a blah blah billion dollar business." WTH does the marriage industry have to do with the decline in marriage?
You can't argue with statistics.
Marriage rates are at a historic low, with no signs that the decline is slowing. If it continues, in around 40 years or so, there will be so few new marriages as to be statistically insignificant.
Maybe I'm weird, or hopelessly benighted, but I don't see any discernible trends of marriage being in decline. Maybe in Scandinavia or Russia, but not in the US. If anything, our sexual mores are returning to pre-1960s conservatism, but without the patriarchal asymmetry that so favored men. In fact one reason that dating is so frustrating for middle-aged professionals is that so many of their peers are already married, and remain happily married. Those who are outside of this rubric are a small minority. If marriages were dissolving on a massive scale, if couples remained unmarried and split with easy regularity, then there would be lots of fine candidates available in the dating-market. But that is not the case.
Maybe I'm weird, or hopelessly benighted, but I don't see any discernible trends of marriage being in decline. Maybe in Scandinavia or Russia, but not in the US. If anything, our sexual mores are returning to pre-1960s conservatism, but without the patriarchal asymmetry that so favored men. In fact one reason that dating is so frustrating for middle-aged professionals is that so many of their peers are already married, and remain happily married. Those who are outside of this rubric are a small minority. If marriages were dissolving on a massive scale, if couples remained unmarried and split with easy regularity, then there would be lots of fine candidates available in the dating-market. But that is not the case.
I can go on. The US marriage rate is in freefall, and I think it's a good thing. The old and useless must be burned to the ground before something new may rise from the ashes.
Men and women just aren't interested in dating anymore. The modern dating world is a joke and so many decide it's not worth the effort. Add in the fact that men and women are becoming less attractive to each other.
I totaly agree with the statement. Specifically, 'the becoming less atractive' is a predicament for all of humanity so I think that we all should critize the modernizm thorougly..
I totaly agree with the statement. Specifically, 'the becoming less atractive' is a predicament for all of humanity so I think that we all should critize the modernizm thorougly..
As Julius Caesar once said, "Alea iacta est." The die is cast.
We're already too far down the wormhole to turn back.
The path that the Western world is headed down is the same path that many great civilizations have travelled. And in case you're not a student of history, it never ends well.
Fortunately, humans are a scrappy species and manage to rise from the ashes over and over again.
Men (and women) are giving up on dating because there is too much competition from other sources.
Most men don't have to have a girlfriend because the primary purpose of having one is sex and they can get orgasms for free in the privacy (well, Google knows but they are God) of their own home with online porn. Also, there are other avenues that cost money but may actually be cheaper in the long run because a man doesn't have to deal with break ups and possibly having their personal property damaged by a scorned woman. Also, with feminism around many American chicks are too difficult to lead and dominate. And then you add in the possibility of contracting an STD or an accidental pregnancy and then you have a situation where the cards are stacked against men.
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Originally Posted by tairos
This is the other reason behind declining marriage rates. Getting a date is much like getting a job in this economy: it's far easier if you already have one. Much as employers treat the unemployed like lepers, women shun long time single men and close ranks to freeze them out, perpetuating the cycle of exclusion.
The demographic of 'worthy' men is only growing more narrow with the liberalization of the dating marketplace brought about by the disintegration of restrictive sexual mores.
Right on, but not to worry. You haven't considered another reason, the Amazon movement, where women are living together with other women in communities free of men and dating. With women surpassing men in education and increasing their numbers in the STEM fields there really isn't much need for a husband anymore. Well except for occasional sex and reproduction and we all know how easy that is for women to obtain without any effort or committment.
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Originally Posted by Cristo666
The fact of the matter is that older women have trouble conceiving. This is why a woman's value decreases as she gets older.
As I've said many times in the past, feminism cannot trump biology. Maybe technology will allow it to one day, but it is unable to do so today.
According to a great many post from men (and women) on this forum they have no interest in conceiving. Even if they did there is actually technology that will allow women to conceive in to their 40s and even in some instances 50s.
As Julius Caesar once said, "Alea iacta est." The die is cast.
We're already too far down the wormhole to turn back.
The path that the Western world is headed down is the same path that many great civilizations have travelled. And in case you're not a student of history, it never ends well.
Fortunately, humans are a scrappy species and manage to rise from the ashes over and over again.
Oh sorry, but I haven't meant that we should turn back to the history. I certainly know that it never ends but the modernizm does not mean the development of humanity.
This is the other reason behind declining marriage rates. Getting a date is much like getting a job in this economy: it's far easier if you already have one. Much as employers treat the unemployed like lepers, women shun long time single men and close ranks to freeze them out, perpetuating the cycle of exclusion.
The demographic of 'worthy' men is only growing more narrow with the liberalization of the dating marketplace brought about by the disintegration of restrictive sexual mores.
That's the mentality of most women. They're most attracted to successful, happily married men. They only want what they can't have.
Right on, but not to worry. You haven't considered another reason, the Amazon movement, where women are living together with other women in communities free of men and dating. With women surpassing men in education and increasing their numbers in the STEM fields there really isn't much need for a husband anymore. Well except for occasional sex and reproduction and we all know how easy that is for women to obtain without any effort or committment.
According to a great many post from men (and women) on this forum they have no interest in conceiving. Even if they did there is actually technology that will allow women to conceive in to their 40s and even in some instances 50s.
I get your sarcasm, and yes, that top quoted post was definitely some horsepuckey (I thought you might like that given your username!)
But seriously, why do you think the marriage rate is declining so precipitously?
Furthermore, what can be done to make marriage a more attractive proposition to all involved?
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, but not to worry. You haven't considered another reason, the Amazon movement, where women are living together with other women in communities free of men and dating. With women surpassing men in education and increasing their numbers in the STEM fields there really isn't much need for a husband anymore. Well except for occasional sex and reproduction and we all know how easy that is for women to obtain without any effort or committment. 
