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But isn't being realistic about your appearance an acknowledgement that leagues or something like leagues exist.
I personally don't think so because ...
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Originally Posted by Auraliea
Attraction is subjective.
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Originally Posted by DuckOfMs
With humans, attractiveness is much more subjective.
Also, attractiveness doesn't just involve physical appearance. Personality, biological factors (types of immunity plays a big part in attraction), intellect, social status, etc...
These things all differ from person to person.
... and when that many factors vary among that many people, when we all like different things that can vary in different combinations, you can't really have agreed-upon "leagues," when you drill deep down and think about it.
So you think that people are equally attracted to a guy with fitting clothes, fresh haircut, white teeth, sparkly eyes than a guy with droopy eyes, comb over, rotten teeth and moles in his face?
... and when that many factors vary among that many people, when we all like different things that can vary in different combinations, you can't really have agreed-upon "leagues," when you drill deep down and think about it.
So you'd put your money on Giamatti over Cavill
Attractiveness is subjective, but people tend to value similar things. Generally, the more people who find you attractive, the easier time you'll have in the first impression department. And often, the subjectivity of attractiveness shows up in one person finding attractive person A more attractive, and another finding attractive person B more attractive. It's far more rare for one person to find generally unattractive person C more attractive than A or B.
Oh, I don't value him for those things lol. Those were just what I immediately saw. Honestly, sometimes the physical appearance is what piques our interest first...not always but sometimes, especially if we're only looking at a photo. I guess the point I was trying to make is that no one should feel that someone is out of their league because you never know what that other person is physically attracted to. We shouldn't assume that if the other person is more attractive that they wouldn't be attracted to us. Never know 'til one tries, I suppose. He didn't hold back in telling me that he was attracted to me (he actually brought it up first) and the more we chatted/talked, the more we became attracted to each other based on personalities, which is the most important thing and those are what I value in him. There's chemistry in our talks...similar humor/interests/backgrounds, etc.
The bolded--not sure what you mean?
Yeah, that was worded awkwardly. I'll take your word that you weren't attracted to his appearance, but you listed those qualities because they communicate his attractiveness. Tall, fit, handsome and young are nice things to be, in part because people find those traits attractive. Most often, men who are tall, fit, handsome and young gravitate toward women who are fit, pretty, and young. Not always, but most of the time, and so that means something.
So you think that people are equally attracted to a guy with fitting clothes, fresh haircut, white teeth, sparkly eyes than a guy with droopy eyes, comb over, rotten teeth and moles in his face?
Maybe not the majority but it's certainly happened a few times.
I see it every time I'm out in public.
I don't believe in leagues because it gives off a certain level of superiority, which I personally CANNOT stand. It's like calling someone a lesser being because they don't have XYZ or aren't seen as attractive as such and such. Some people like to call this a REALITY....but I think it's just an excuse to bring people down. That's just my opinion.
Yeah, that was worded awkwardly. I'll take your word that you weren't attracted to his appearance, but you listed those qualities because they communicate his attractiveness. Tall, fit, handsome and young are nice things to be, in part because people find those traits attractive. Most often, men who are tall, fit, handsome and young gravitate toward women who are fit, pretty, and young. Not always, but most of the time, and so that means something.
Hey, I gravitate toward those kind of women too. That doesn't mean I'm tall, fit, or handsome. In fact, I know I am at most, only one of those three (fit).
Maybe not the majority but it's certainly happened a few times.
I see it every time I'm out in public.
I don't believe in leagues because it gives off a certain level of superiority, which I personally CANNOT stand. It's like calling someone a lesser being because they don't have XYZ or aren't seen as attractive as such and such. Some people like to call this a REALITY....but I think it's just an excuse to bring people down. That's just my opinion.
I totally agree that there's no "value" in being attractive. I'm also not a fan of people talking about this in terms of value or superiority. I can also agree that there's no REALITY that we all have to agree on. It's my opinion that being conventionally attractive has real advantages in most cases. I think that enough people seek out as many attractive qualities in a partner as they can, and that leads to the artifact that couples are most often about the same level of attractiveness, exceptions notwithstanding. That is real.
I don't believe in leagues because it gives off a certain level of superiority, which I personally CANNOT stand. It's like calling someone a lesser being because they don't have XYZ or aren't seen as attractive as such and such. Some people like to call this a REALITY....but I think it's just an excuse to bring people down. That's just my opinion.
I have a different one but you might be right, many people may think like that.
I have dated guys who weren't super hot. I did not feel superior or better. I don't feel superior or better than anybody because everybody has "something." If it is warm eyes, charm, humor, witt, intelligence, ...
According to your concept, who should feel superior: they average looking guy with a high IQ or the hot guy with a lower IQ or the average guy with tons of money?
According to your concept, who should feel superior: they average looking guy with a high IQ or the hot guy with a lower IQ or the average guy with tons of money?
I'd say whichever guy has the least amount of trouble getting a girlfriend who's attractive. And after a breakup, the one who takes the least amount of time to get another one.
Anyone who doesn't think leagues are real should ask themselves if they could ever TRUTHFULLY visualize Jennifer Lawrence dating and sexing up a 300lb neckbearded guy with a beer gut. That will give you your answer.
I didn't say leagues don't exist, I said they're for people who are superficial and don't understand what is important. They never seem to find happiness with another, because they can't be happy with them-self. IMO
I've seen plenty of JL/neckbearded couples. I didn't wonder what she saw in him, I assumed she saw something attractive to her.
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