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I'm also not a fan of people talking about this in terms of value or superiority.
The problem there, though, is that leagues are ALL about superiority and ranking.
There's not a problem with noticing and acknowledging the differences people have in terms of looks, wealth, talent, etc. The problem is when we assume they all can be ranked in a consistent hierarchy.
It's an imaginary system of worthiness, a descriptive norm, that reinforces itself (because people GENERALLY tend to sort themselves similarly in terms of attractiveness anyway) but also serves as a defense mechanism.
Average guy gets rejected by a hot girl? "No big deal, it was a gamble anyway, dude." But if a girl in his own "league" rejects him? "WTF is wrong with that stuck-up *****?"
So rather than accept the fact that people like and want different things, IMHO some people think it's easier on the ego to believe in a concept of leagues.
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I'd say whichever guy has the least amount of trouble getting a girlfriend who's attractive. And after a breakup, the one who takes the least amount of time to get another one.
Life isn't all about dating or romantic relationships. Far from it.
I have a different one but you might be right, many people may think like that.
I have dated guys who weren't super hot. I did not feel superior or better. I don't feel superior or better than anybody because everybody has "something." If it is warm eyes, charm, humor, witt, intelligence, ...
According to your concept, who should feel superior: they average looking guy with a high IQ or the hot guy with a lower IQ or the average guy with tons of money?
Maybe not the majority but it's certainly happened a few times.
I see it every time I'm out in public.
I don't believe in leagues because it gives off a certain level of superiority, which I personally CANNOT stand. It's like calling someone a lesser being because they don't have XYZ or aren't seen as attractive as such and such. Some people like to call this a REALITY....but I think it's just an excuse to bring people down. That's just my opinion.
That sounds all good and all but I don't think it's entirely honest. We don't like to admit it but of course leagues exist. That's why you normally see attractive people with attractive people. And vice versa.
Some of the examples used like Lyle Lovett and Julia Roberts were poor examples. At the end of the day, they did not last.When it was over I remember everyone saying, "that they were glad it was over because she was out of his league.
If two people are more or less equal, the deciding factor would come down to who they were more attracted to. It really is that simple and it's basic biology.
Of course there are exceptions as with anything, but outside of that it's pretty much the norm.
League? League? What league? In fact, what is this thing you call a league? I didn't know I had a league for someone to be out of, much less me. Nor should anyone else.
As Richard Bach writes in his book, Illusions, "Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours."
Some of the examples used like Lyle Lovett and Julia Roberts were poor examples. At the end of the day, they did not last.When it was over I remember everyone saying, "that they were glad it was over because she was out of his league.
Whether they last or not is not my point. I used that example because the poster feels that a woman "more attractive" than him wouldn't be interested in him. My point is that no one should sell themselves short
Whether they last or not is not my point. I used that example because the poster feels that a woman "more attractive" than him wouldn't be interested in him. My point is that no one should sell themselves short
Well then she might be attracted to him.Which to her, he would not be out of her league. Looks are subjective, but that doesn't diminish the reality that people mostly date people who are s imiliar in attractiveness.
Exceptions as with everything exist. For the most part, how many "two's (for lack of a more politically correct way of saying it) do you see with so called "tens?" Probably not that many.
Whether they last or not is not my point. I used that example because the poster feels that a woman "more attractive" than him wouldn't be interested in him. My point is that no one should sell themselves short
I agree no one should sell themselves short. You dont know until you try. That still doesn't deminish this "notion" of leagues.
Wether it's real or not people usually view themselves in a certain light. Meaning, if someone sees themselves as a ten, then most likely they aren't looking to date a "two."
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