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Old 11-27-2017, 08:29 PM
 
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Thanks everyone for your input and thoughts.

Bottom line, I would describe myself

Whether masculine or feminine or whatever, (thought probably more masculine) I tend to value objective, rational explanations and understanding. I actually tend to value stoicism, but in a good way. Grace and calm in the face of a crisis. I actually like being outdoors, hiking, camping, road trips, studying our natural world, am not grossed out generally speaking, no problem getting my hands dirty. So actually at the heart of it, I do have generally some rugged aspects.

But while I can be very intellectual, I have a borderline disability (not a real one) with keeping up with a changing world. I tend to adopt technology and gadgets a little later than everyone (First cell phone - early 2003, first smartphone end of 2013), my top travel destinations are what would be an average persons travel destinations 20 years ago. (I'm NOT putting New Zealand above Australia as a travel destination because damn it I grew up with Crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin before Lord of the Rings. And if I travel to Eastern European, I want to look for Cold War memorabilia, and I want to give to a charity as I assume they need it, because damn it, that's what formerly communist countries need. you get the drift). Besides the point.

This ALSO applies to my understand of equality/social justice/prejudice/etc. No I don't believe in intersectionality. Yes, maybe some hidden corners of academia were into this, but my understanding of all this is simple.

I doesn't matter if you agreed politically Margaret Thatcher, its bizarre to NOT hold her up as a strong women and a symbol of women's achievement and progress. and testament to how even CONSERVATIVE people in the English speaking world have changed.

And although I'm against prejudice to Muslims period, its bizarre to see the intersection of feminists and Muslims. Its also bizarre to see slutwalk. I'm not going to change my mind for awhile that although a woman can do as she pleases and should have the right to be safe ALWAYS, if 10-15 years ago, it was NOT recommended that if women dress provocatively or is in a job like working a strip club or whatever, the accepted reality is that its a RISK and society can only do so much to protect them.


So, over the past few years, where social justice movements have been reborn, I figured now is as good of a time as any to give myself the kind of makeover that "***** Eye for the Straight Guy" has done because:

1. A few women will go out of their way to talk to you and compliment you (I've gotten this on my slim fit velvet blazer, slim fit white leather jacket, patent leather shoes, pink polo, bright paisley patterned shirts) and the rest of them will like feel safe, as they are wondering if you're gay or straight as opposed to wondering if you're a mysoginist or worse.

2. Why not?? With all this acceptance of changing roles, experiment a little - and bonus no one could accuse of being a homophobe, but rather some people will take off a few of those bad privilege points because they will wonder themselves.

Keep in mind I'm not like this all the time. When I'm actually in a relationship, I'm a more typical guy (in a good way) as I'm not trying to diffuse any presumptions. But when things like the women's march or the "me too" movement happen, I think eh . . . maybe its better to be not a regular guy for now.

Anyways, that's all I have to say about that.
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:40 PM
 
Location: The Ozone Layer, apparently...
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So, always be yourself. Unless you can be Jason Momoa. Preferably striding out of the water, or possibly playing guitar with no shirt on.
OMG! YES! They should ALL be Jason.
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Old 11-28-2017, 10:36 AM
 
Location: OHIO
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It would vary from person to person as does everything in life.
Also men can be feminists, and I'm sure the same applies to them.


I personally don't have a favor between "rugged" or "pretty boy". A sense of humor and being able to connect and have interesting conversations are my main thing.
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Old 11-28-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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OMG! YES! They should ALL be Jason.
We will be, as soon as all women turn into Gal Gadot and stop screaming about fat acceptance, body shaming and other similar SJW drivel.
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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LOL!

Am I seeing this? I'm like, "Well according to women on my Facebook feed, that Jason Momoa dude is pretty hot" and another woman is like "Hell yeah" basically, and then there's dudes all mad like "Oh yeah, you're fat! And an SJW who screams about things!" Wow.

The thread was silly to begin with really, like every man in the world is either some kind of rugged macho man, or else a prancing metrosexual with a man bun, and maybe feminists like one kind and non-feminists like another? Whaaaat?
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:01 PM
 
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Young Libertarian/conservative women (like Youtubers Julie Borowski or Roaming Millennial) - they make me feel good to be a man.

who basically believe that feminism has largely achieved its goals, that sexism and misogyny is a result of INDIVIDUAL sexist jerks, and not at all institutional anymore, and that one should look outside western nations, particularly Middle East and Africa if one is to be sincere about helping to empower women



Bottom line: Hearing modern feminist talking points, make me think: well lets just switch gender roles then, I'm not going to sort this all out - make me want to be "pretty"/flamboyant. Libertarian/conservative women inspire to bring out my more masculine side.

Thoughts?
I totally adore Roaming Millennial I think if she was in front of me right now and said she was single I'd propose to her lol. I agree with pretty much everything she says. She just interviewed Ben Shapiro a few days ago.
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Default ....

Mod cut: Orphaned (quoted post has been deleted).

Regardless I am a feminist and I like who I like.
It is simple as that.
Attaction relates to a lot of things.
Could be as simple as the way he smells or I am bored and I like the logo on his t-shirt and want to find out what's that's all about.
Or hey there are bunch of interesting men ... but that one is standing closer to the bar and I do feel like getting something to drink anyways.
No point over thinking it !
Lots of randomness ....

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Old 11-28-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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Most feminists I know either date hipster men or inter racially.
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:47 AM
 
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So you're telling me there are pretty boys, rugged guys...and that is it.
So you're telling me that is nothing in between...no nerdy guys, no fitness guys, etc.
Just pretty boys and rugged guys.

Ok
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Old 11-29-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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Why do real men care what they want again?

Ask one..
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