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I don't really agree. Sexuality is not "one or the other," as many seem to think it is.
I never said that it is one or the other, I think after talking with some friends who are gay that its a matter of degrees.
However there are men out there who protray themselves as straight as an arrow when in reality they are not THAT straight, they would in fact consider sexual interaction on some level with another man.
Have you ever spoke to a man who frequents trannie prostitutes but considers himself straight as an arrow?? I have, for some, its all about denial and how they NEED to perceive themselves.
However there are men out there who protray themselves as straight as an arrow when in reality they are not THAT straight, they would in fact consider sexual interaction on some level with another man.
I never said that it is one or the other, I think after talking with some friends who are gay that its a matter of degrees.
However there are men out there who protray themselves as straight as an arrow when in reality they are not THAT straight, they would in fact consider sexual interaction on some level with another man.
Exactly.
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Have you ever spoke to a man who frequents trannie prostitutes but considers himself straight as an arrow?? I have, for some, its all about denial and how they NEED to perceive themselves.
I've heard of such men. It's very common in many cultures for men to lead heterosexual, conventional lives and engage in sex with other men/transvestites on the side. More or less acceptable, since masculinity and gender roles are defined differently in other places.
"The way it ought to be done" is not something I invented. I'm merely repeating it. If I told you that something such as larceny is wrong, and that "the way it ought to be done" is that nobody should steal anything which doesn't belong to them, does that make me egocentric and not humble? I think not.
Y'all who are ripping on me for being bigoted and taking the moral high ground... don't be mad nor surprised when John McCain beats your guy for the Presidency of the United States in November. SOME modicum of morality has to remain in this country or else America is going to self-destruct and that's a fact. Saying that homosexuality is not the right way to live one's life is not being bigoted any more than saying that some other choice of lifestyle is bad. Being bigoted is when one hates people of other races/ethnicities/religions purely because those people belong to said races/ethnicities/religions. I don't hate gay people. I merely believe they are making poor decisions with their lives, and I don't want to see/hear expressions of homosexual love. I don't think I hate anyone. You think that anyone who suggests that someone is doing something wrong is "bigoted"... or that anyone who suggests that any particular way of life is wrong is "bigoted". Look up the definition of "bigot" when you get the chance... or better yet, I'll provide it for you, from the Merriam-Webster online dictionary (Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online): BIGOT: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.
Now, note that "obstinate" is defined as: "perversely adhering to an opinion, purpose, or course in spite of reason, arguments, or persuasion". My adhesion to my belief system is not "perverse", and it is not in spite of reason. As a matter of fact, I operate on reason and as such it is difficult to "argue" or "persuade" enough to get me to change my beliefs.
We got talking about this because I "dared" to suggest that homosexuality is a choice. If it isn't, explain to me how some gay people, through the power of God, have been able to put aside all desire for people of the same sex and have become fully functional heterosexuals again? I attended a lecture/presentation put on by one such man... who had been cured of his homosexual desires and by that point was actually happily married to a woman. If it was not a choice, and instead it was a "birth defect" as one poster said, it couldn't just go "poof" like that.
Maybe SierraAZ was right... in this forum it seems like for every one conservative thinker such as myself who actually adheres to solid principles of morality, there are 10 liberal thinkers who believe that what's right for any one person is okay for them and not up for debate nor challenge. Heaven knows, I don't have much time to be on this forum anyway, as my wife and I are feverishly working toward the aforementioned "Kodak life" this summer. If you never hear from me again, just think about things like this. Apparently, I'm a happy guy having done things MY WAY... which I believe is at least darn close to God's way. Y'all who have this problem and that problem and spend hours on Internet forums complaining about your problems certainly don't seem happy. You'll bust on me for my conservative ways, but I'm happy and at least it's evident... if you are happy, it's certainly not evident from the majority of you. I'll take my "stodgy" ways that help my wife and I to be happy any day over accepting a more liberal mindset which would just make me spineless. The old cliche is true... if you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.
i may not agree with everything that you say, but i admire conviction and courage. your desire is to get as close as you can to the light.
thanks for sharing. you are not alone.
i may not agree with everything that you say, but i admire conviction and courage. your desire is to get as close as you can to the light.
thanks for sharing. you are not alone.
If he is not alone, then I hope he can go permanently join whomever it is that he regularly cohorts with and leave this thread alone. It doesn't involve anything that he is discussing, and his contributions are unnecessary and deliberately divisive.
If he is not alone, then I hope he can go permanently join whomever it is that he regularly cohorts with and leave this thread alone. It doesn't involve anything that he is discussing, and his contributions are unnecessary and deliberately divisive.
Hey, somebody has to fill in for IbeDavid... The universe doesn't like vacuum. What fun is it if we don't fight like cats and dogs?! Since a lot of us have no families, here's one virtual dysfunctional family! Fortunately, you can shut this one up at will!
Hey, somebody has to fill in for IbeDavid... The universe doesn't like vacuum. What fun is it if we don't fight like cats and dogs?! Since a lot of us have no families, here's one virtual dysfunctional family! Fortunately, you can shut this one up at will!
Well, there are plenty of other threads dealing with sexuality that he can go spew his nonsense to. It doesn't have to be here.
I don't really agree. Sexuality is not "one or the other," as many seem to think it is.
Actually...I don't see why it can't be one or the other for some people. I don't think this generalization could be any more true than any of the others made on here.
Just because you and a number of other people are able to feel this way doesn't mean the whole world is. Any more than the fact that I and a lot of the world are heterosexual would mean that the whole world must be heterosexual.
Deciding that everyone must feel as you do, and that if they won't admit to it then they must be in denial, is as narrow a view as other people telling you that there can't possibly be such a thing as bisexuality, or homosexuality.
Sexuality USUALLY is one or the other. It is more common for it to be one or the other.
You rarely hear of married straight men having affairs with guys. lol. It's usually the other woman.
I think I am all gay. I wouldn't date, court, make out, or get sexual with a lady.
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Actually...I don't see why it can't be one or the other for some people. I don't think this generalization could be any more true than any of the others made on here.
Just because you and a number of other people are able to feel this way doesn't mean the whole world is. Any more than the fact that I and a lot of the world are heterosexual would mean that the whole world must be heterosexual.
Deciding that everyone must feel as you do, and that if they won't admit to it then they must be in denial, is as narrow a view as other people telling you that there can't possibly be such a thing as bisexuality, or homosexuality.
Sexuality USUALLY is one or the other. It is more common for it to be one or the other.
Right. "Usually". Not "always". So an absolute like "sexuality isn't one or the other" isn't true.
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Since a lot of us have no families, here's one virtual dysfunctional family! Fortunately, you can shut this one up at will!
