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Old 07-31-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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Your interpretations are very self-negative.
My interpretations are merely realistic. I am not so naive as to believe you give a hoot about my inner peace. It's a meaningless and disingenuous statement, that people make in order to assert their own supposed moral superiority.
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Old 07-31-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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Of course not. Statistics are not all wrong but there are cases where they can be manipulated and who's to know which ones?
It's very easy to know. If we say that more than 50% of contested custody cases are won by fathers, that is just that.

Statistics are manipulated when people are invited to make inferences that the statistic itself doesn't support. For example, the fact that this country has a 46% divorce rate doesn't mean that every couple has a 46% chance of divorcing -- since the rate varies widely depending on the age and economic status of the parties, the number of prior marriages, etc. Similarly, the fact that the mother gets custody in the overwhelming majority of cases doesn't mean that women win most contested custody cases -- since not every custody arrangement is contested, and in fact, very few are.
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Old 07-31-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Land of 10000 Lakes +
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OK. Whatever you say.
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:37 PM
 
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*Gender Bias Study of the Court System in Massachusetts, 24 New Eng.L.Rev. 745, 747, 825, 846 (1990) -- study which found that courts are more demanding of women and more lenient towards men in contested custody cases; male violence towards their wives was often held irrelevant to the issue of custody. This study also found that a whopping 94% of fathers who actively sought custody received joint or sole custody. Although fathers received physical custody in 29% of all cases, mothers received custody in only 7% of contested cases.
This is a mis-representation of the study, which can be accessed here:
Gender Bias Study of the Court System in Massachusetts

Per the executive summary:
"Fathers who actively seek custody obtain either primary or joint physical custody over 70% of the time."

Not 94% of the time. Also note that the 70% figure includes both primary and joint custody. In other words, mothers recieve FULL physical custody 30% of the time in contested cases.
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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Simple. Because he stands loose much more. He'd rather put up w/her BS than lose tons of $$$ and the house. And the kids.
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Old 09-21-2009, 04:06 PM
 
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Can only speak for myself. But in general men are procrastinators, I believe, so women must take the initiative. Women file becasue they are tired of being unhappy , tired of the BS and not getting needs met by a selfish man. They realize that they have a chance at happiness and they run to take it.
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Judge: "Mr. Smith, I'm going to give your wife $400 a month."

Mr. Smith: "That's kind of you, your Honor, I'll try to send her a couple bucks myself."
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Because women never do any wrong in relationships, so obviously it is ALWAYS because the guy was a sorry man.
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Rockland County New York
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Much much more often than men? I read a stat that women file around 70 percent of the time!!! Why is this?
Perhaps some of them become lesbians. It did happen to one woman I know. Some women never know what they want.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:22 PM
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This thread sure is real drama. Maybe i should reconsider ever getting married.
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