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This reminds me of something. If christians are going to say that those with AIDS and other STDs are not true christians, then atheists can say that a professed atheist with AIDs or some other STD are, in actuality, not true atheists.
I think not...Atheists do not have to lie to defend their godless non belief.
Aren't you forgetting, a horny heterosexual will turn gay one night, have random unprotected sex, then get the disease, turn straight again then give it to their partner.
That's how the anti gays will respond. What's interesting is that there's been some talk on here of trying to find 'strategies' to keep homosexuals celibate because sodomy and fornication are the world's great evils(again the anti gay belief) but there are many heterosexuals whom engage in premarital, anal and oral sex. Mind you responsible sex, in any form will highly decrease, if not nearly eliminate, one's chances of contracting the disease. Interesting that posters like Nikk and Campbell talk about how it's because people aren't following the bible, yet most atheists, agnostics and other non christians aren't promiscuous and don't have an STD.
Those on here that oppose homosexuality are really just flipping crap in a futile attempt to try and 'justify' their prejudices.
how do you know that most atheists agnostics and anyone who isnt christian is not promiscuous?
I recently posted a thread on the subject of Lutheran and Episcopal churches that now bless gay marriage and also allow their priests\ bishops to be in gay marriages. Doing a little research, I discovered that there are a growing number of Christian churches accepting the notion that God does not create abominations, that gays are children of God like everyone else. I think the trend toward full acceptance of gays is occurring across Christianity.
for the record and before i state my opinion- i do not hate you or homosexuals period. so now with that said: i agree love is the answer and respect but you know what i find offensive is the fact that no one and i mean NO ONE can have a different opinion or even dare have the right to oppose what you believe and that is so hypocrital and bias its not even funny.you want rights well so do we. and straight people have the right to their opinion period just as you do but no one will allow it on here its either your with us or get flamed. i say respect because you know how offensive you are to some christians for saying that our god made you that way? no your god maybe made you that way but thats not the way most christians believe so why should we give respect and be tollerant of your behavior but your not of ours?? another thing how dare you say that christians are to blame for gay teen suicide? that is some bs if i have ever heard it. i am native american and guess what? we have the highest suicide rate amongst anyone, and i suppose since i assume your white, that i can say all whites are to blame for this right? give me a break! i would also like to know what does "we are mostly a product of your marriages mean?" that we are responsible for your being gay too?? do any of you know who you are calling down when you disgrace straight people? your own parents! hello they made you! without them you wouldnt be here. you said it all in the last sentence why dont we get along, this is why, neither side is respectful neither side is tollerant and both sides want to play the blame game thats why.
i know my opinion will be met with nothing but flame as a straight person i am not entitled to mine, but i didnt expect anything less!
So... you don't hate homosexuals? Um... okay. Here's the thing - you have a right to your opinion. You have a right to think your God didn't create homosexuals. You have a right to think it's wrong. You have the right to be offended by anyone and everyone. You have the right to your own feelings. However - you do not have the right to take away the rights of other because of you feelings. You can be as intolerant and hate filled in your own mind. But prejudice should not be written into the law. It will always exist in peoples' minds but it shouldn't be allowed to be written into law.
for the record and before i state my opinion- i do not hate you or homosexuals period. so now with that said: i agree love is the answer and respect but you know what i find offensive is the fact that no one and i mean NO ONE can have a different opinion or even dare have the right to oppose what you believe and that is so hypocrital and bias its not even funny.you want rights well so do we. and straight people have the right to their opinion period just as you do but no one will allow it on here its either your with us or get flamed. i say respect because you know how offensive you are to some christians for saying that our god made you that way? no your god maybe made you that way but thats not the way most christians believe so why should we give respect and be tollerant of your behavior but your not of ours?? another thing how dare you say that christians are to blame for gay teen suicide? i am native american and guess what? we have the highest suicide rate amongst anyone, and i suppose since i assume your white, that i can say all whites are to blame for this right? no. i know the catholic church all too well i do know how they have treated minorites and yeah it was/is horrible, nothing excuses how badly people have been treated because of religion, but not all religion is bad.
i would also like to know what does "we are mostly a product of your marriages mean?" that we are responsible for your being gay too?? do any of you know who you are calling down when you disgrace straight people? your own parents! hello they made you! without them you wouldnt be here. you said it all in the last sentence why dont we get along, this is why, neither side is respectful neither side is tollerant and both sides want to play the blame game thats why.
i know my opinion will be met with nothing but flame as a straight person i am not entitled to mine, but i didnt expect anything less!
So... you don't hate homosexuals? Um... okay. Here's the thing - you have a right to your opinion. You have a right to think your God didn't create homosexuals. You have a right to think it's wrong. You have the right to be offended by anyone and everyone. You have the right to your own feelings. However - you do not have the right to take away the rights of other because of you feelings. You can be as intolerant and hate filled in your own mind. But prejudice should not be written into the law. It will always exist in peoples' minds but it shouldn't be allowed to be written into law.
just as i thought, see that is what you dont get just because i believe different that you doesnt mean i am prejudice toward you. i am not taking anyones rights away! please explain how i personally am taking your rights away? i do nothing to no one dont care how you live your life just dont push your beliefs on me and mine and i wont on you. you respect me i respect you
just as i thought, see that is what you dont get just because i believe different that you doesnt mean i am prejudice toward you. i am not taking anyones rights away! please explain how i personally am taking your rights away? i do nothing to no one dont care how you live your life just dont push your beliefs on me and mine and i wont on you. you respect me i respect you
Well, first of all - I didn't think that you were prejudiced towards me. Maybe you are - do you hate half Japanese half Jewish singers who are straight? I mean - you wouldn't be the first person to be prejudiced against me but I didn't see anything in your post to say that you were...
The whole gay thing is only an issue because of gay marriage. Gays want equal rights - which they should have. If they didn't - then I'm sure the church wouldn't care about it except to try to "convert" people to being straight. I don't see how Gays are "pushing" their beliefs on anyone. They want equal rights and they want to be treated with respect. Nobody is trying to force anyone to be gay. They just want to live in peace.
We have NO BUSINESS trying to enforce what God wants, period!
I am so sick and tired of the barbaric idea that we humans have a responsibility to ENFORCE God's desires on our fellow beings!! That is the exact OPPOSITE of what God desires. God desires SELF-CONTROL . . . NOT imposed dictatorships. What God wants God will deal with . . . NOT US!!! We are in charge of what we as a society need and agree upon, PERIOD.
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see that is what you dont get just because i believe different that you doesnt mean i am prejudice toward you. i am not taking anyones rights away! please explain how i personally am taking your rights away? i do nothing to no one dont care how you live your life just dont push your beliefs on me and mine and i wont on you. you respect me i respect you
We have NO BUSINESS trying to enforce what God wants, period!
