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View Poll Results: Do you believe in any God?
Yes 40 36.70%
No 69 63.30%
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:58 AM
 
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The most recent god related war activity is Iraq. George W. Bush said he prayed for weeks before the invasion and god told him to do it. Conservative estimates are that 150,000 innocents were killed as collaterals during the war and more than 2 million fled from their homes to Syria and Jordon after the suicide bombings began.
Gods wars in the Bible were Holy wars. God didn't tell George Bush or any other goverment leader of our day, to kill anyone. The goverments don't belong to him, they belong to Satan.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:00 PM
 
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Adam died, Satan is still very much alive.
Like I said, we knew you would have an answer. Anybody who continues to worship one of the thousands of ancient gods can't think in reality. They give the answers based upon the hundreds or thousands of sermons they've heard. Has it ever occurred to you that the church...any church in the world is a self serving organization? If you quit coming and dropping off your money(which they waste for the most part) they will have to get an honest job and actually begin to do something besides weddings and funerals and take 45 minutes to prepare their weekly sermon.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:04 PM
 
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Then why are we still all sinners? Of course there is still doctrinally 'original sin'. Faith in Jesus' resurrection is supposedly a way out but it has not in any way 'brought back' the situation that obtained before Adam's reputed fall.

I find it hard to understand how believers can airily make palapably innacurate claims about what God or Jesus have or have not done or said or want. I will say it again - if I really believed I would not dare to do that.
Without Jesus ransom sacrifice, we wouldn't have a way out of our sinful state. God's going to stop all the bad, in his own time that only he knows about. I can say this because it is in the Bible for all to read.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:08 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Adam died, Satan is still very much alive.

Adam is a myth. so is Satan.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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Like I said, we knew you would have an answer. Anybody who continues to worship one of the thousands of ancient gods can't think in reality. They give the answers based upon the hundreds or thousands of sermons they've heard. Has it ever occurred to you that the church...any church in the world is a self serving organization? If you quit coming and dropping off your money(which they waste for the most part) they will have to get an honest job and actually begin to do something besides weddings and funerals and take 45 minutes to prepare their weekly sermon.
God wanted us to congregate, where we do it is up to us. We have to be whole heartedly wanting to know him and do his will or we won't be doing as he wants us to. It's up to us to decide for ourselves through reading his word and looking into all the religions, to find the truth. That isn't too much to ask of us.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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Without Jesus ransom sacrifice, we wouldn't have a way out of our sinful state.
Don't include me in your BS. I am not in a sinful state, never have been. I'm damn sure not going to your imagined fire to burn and you're not going anywhere either. Somebody has you living in a place which closely resembles hell right here on earth as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:12 PM
 
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Adam is a myth. so is Satan.
Do you believe the same about Jesus as well?
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:16 PM
 
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Don't include me in your BS. I am not in a sinful state, never have been. I'm damn sure not going to your imagined fire to burn and you're not going anywhere either. Somebody has you living in a place which closely resembles hell right here on earth as far as I'm concerned.
There is no place of eternal torment.

We are all sinners.

I have hope of living forever, you don't want that priviledge it seems. I'm happy knowing about it myself.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Without Jesus ransom sacrifice, we wouldn't have a way out of our sinful state. God's going to stop all the bad, in his own time that only he knows about. I can say this because it is in the Bible for all to read.
How is god going to stop the bad? Could it be the same way christians think he did the last time, by killing all but a few?...No thanks, you can keep your vindictive god.
Belief in the bible and the koran have caused more strife in this world than all the despots combined, so you can keep your bible too.

Every post you make increases my disdain for religion...
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:32 PM
 
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How is god going to stop the bad? Could it be the same way christians think he did the last time, by killing all but a few?...No thanks, you can keep your vindictive god.
Belief in the bible and the koran have caused more strife in this world than all the despots combined, so you can keep your bible too.

Every post you make increases my disdain for religion...
God has never killed anyone that was faithful to him. We are all faced with the choice to be his people or be against him.
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