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Yes, mood-wide, any god: the God of the electric company, the God of trusting love, the God of ignoring school for deciding a weekend sojourn in the country; the God of getting cured in the hospital; the God of security for the elevator company, the God of the global warming...
I didn't say Noah failed. The ones that failed are the ones begging to get on that ark after the door was closed.
Noah failed, he was human. He didnt get to everyone to preach the word. He shouldn't have been saved, he failed. How can they get to the ark if they are across the world and have no idea what is up?
And now you have no hope of living forever. Or at least you won't, if you continue to ignore God. I hope you don't.
Well there is no such thing, so I am not too worried about it. Besides I dont want to follow a god that treats people the way he does, or punishes them for not worshiping him but is a good person.
Noah failed, he was human. He didnt get to everyone to preach the word. He shouldn't have been saved, he failed. How can they get to the ark if they are across the world and have no idea what is up?
God talked directly with Noah, Noah couldn't have failed.
God talked directly with Noah, Noah couldn't have failed.
Well he did. People in Japan had no knowledge of the bible and neither did the American Natives or many many many other places. SO if it was Noahs job to spread the word , HE FAILED and so did God for not seeing that.
you notice there is still no answer to why satan is still such an adversary if god is more powerful.
Sounds like satan is basically ruling the world......maybe it was given to him for a toy.
Or maybe god is just out to lunch.
If the world took a symbolic 7 days to make the world, maybe lunch is going to take a symbolic 3 hours.(a few million years)
Agree entirely!! All this nonsense about 'it's not gods fault' is absolute tripe. If Frankenstein created the monster and the monster turns bad, the responsibility lies with Frankenstein. Yet Frankenstein has the excuse that he didn't know that the monster would turn out bad. That excuse can't be used by the Christian god as he did know...and knew fully before he even started...that the creation would fall to pieces. Yet he went ahead anyway. How then is it not his fault??
Agreed, it's like Jerry Springer, starting something controversial, knowing it would erupt into madness, and standing back with glee and watch it all unfold
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I am tired of the whole " god didnt make it happen, he is not responsible satan is junk. Your GOD is 100% responsible for it, HE made the rules, HE had 100% power to change things to punish only those that did the crimes, not the whole of the world. So I put the blame 100% on him.
And you still haven't answered my questions,
Would you kill your kid for a sin? Would you punish all your kids ( and their kids and their kids and so on) for the sin of one? Do you love your kids unconditionally?
Agreed
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Their God set the rules. He didn't have to punish all born form then on for the sin of eating an apple ( lol is that the best the writers could come up with?) He didn't have to commit genocide to punish the sinners. I dont see that as fair or loving. I see it as sadistic and evil. It was his doing and his fault, and it continues to be as people suffer for no reason without his help.Yet the excuse him. I dont know if it is being blind and not wanting to see it or brainwashed.
Yes, we are all screwed before we have even started, yet we are to blame, even although we never chose to be a part of it
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That's the way he likes it too. He doesn't want people to blame him. He hates God, he wants us to blame God.
But who started the whole thing, it sure wasn't us that stated the rules, or chose to play now, was it
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Satan has. Satan knew what would happen if Adam disobeyed God, he didn't care. Sin was passed down because of that. God cares about us and warns us, if we don't listen, how is he to blame?
If he cared, he would not blame us for something which isn't our fault or that we have no control over, WE DID NOT STATE THE RULES OF THIS GAME/NIGHTMARE
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There is no place of eternal torment.
We are all sinners.
I have hope of living forever, you don't want that priviledge it seems. I'm happy knowing about it myself.
So do you believe in annihilation then, if not then you are LYING and there is indeed a place of eternal torment, and for the record not living forever is like music to my ears
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How is god going to stop the bad? Could it be the same way christians think he did the last time, by killing all but a few?...No thanks, you can keep your vindictive god.
Belief in the bible and the koran have caused more strife in this world than all the despots combined, so you can keep your bible too.
Every post you make increases my disdain for religion...
I couldn't agree more, even the religious can't even agree with one another, yet they expect us to come running and joining in their ranks with open arms
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For the record I voted yes on this poll, I do believe there is something out there, I only hope it's not the vindictive deity portrayed by many on here, christian or otherwise
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