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Which 7 things are you referencing?
Here's one list>> The Seven Things God Hates | Renewed by the Truth
1.Haughty eyes –
2.Lying tongue –
3.Hands that shed innocent blood –
4.Heart that devises wicked schemes –
5.Feet that are quick to rush into evil –
6.False witness that pours out lies –
7.A man who stirs up dissension among his brothers –
These seven things represent the complete list of the flaws in man that God hates
It is going to be crowded down there.
I choose not to believe this list is accurate. I choose to believe another way.
The pastor of the Westboro Church is now praying a special type of prayer that Anderson Cooper be cursed. I would say he might be very, very wrong in everything that he believes.
Haughty... sounds just like any minister or head of the church Ive ever known.. up their own jacksies.. the lot of them.. proud, vain, arrogant, conceited, snobbish, stuck-up, pompous, self-important, superior, egotistical, supercilious, condescending, lofty , lordly...
The being who came to earth was created direct-first and last--God created all other things through that being. He was named Jesus as a mortal, He is Gods master worker of Prov 8--it is the being who came to earth speaking at Prov 8--It is not God speaking--all evidence in the bible points it to being-Michael the archangel. It is Michael who is standing up, here in these last days.-Daniel 12:1)
It's amazing the things you have personally witnessed in your life.
The being who came to earth was created direct-first and last--God created all other things through that being. He was named Jesus as a mortal, He is Gods master worker of Prov 8--it is the being who came to earth speaking at Prov 8--It is not God speaking--all evidence in the bible points it to being-Michael the archangel. It is Michael who is standing up, here in these last days.-Daniel 12:1)
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Originally Posted by phetaroi
It's amazing the things you have personally witnessed in your life.
It’s good that you have such a fulfilling relationship with imaginary entities.
LOL, he can't do what he says either. I can quote Jesus and watch him deny what Jesus says, but we are the best of friends, I just need to straighten him out a bit.
God gives you the first breath you breathe and takes away the last breath you breathe. Why do you think there's suicide attempts? It's God way of saying it wasn't time for that person to go yet.
I've known people who have attempted and committed suicide. Several of them are related to me. You do not know what that person was going through to make them get to that point. Some people have so much pain wheather its emotionally, physically and/or mentally, they just feel its best to end it all.
God makes his judgement at the end of who gets to go to Heaven. Everyone is a sinner and I believe those who accept and believe in Jesus have a good chance of going to Heaven
Your first sentence is true... but when we choose to take our own lives... this is a sin against God's Law of Love. When we don't love ourselves or others... and we do this, make no mistake, we will find ourselves in Hell. But God is Good and Loving, Kind and Compassionate. We can get out of Hell as it isn't eternal.
Believing in Jesus is a good thing, but ultimately, it's possessing God's Divine Love which transforms our soul and makes us at-one with God that brings to us immortality and the privilege of residing in the highest Heavens... the Celestial Heavens. This we can all possess... God's highest Love... even those who find themselves in Hell. Seek, pray and receive. Eazy peazy.
The harm in murder is that it deprives another being of their right to be alive if they so choose.
Suicide inherently cannot violate that right and so is not murder. One can make theological "arguments" that it violates god's right to keep you alive against your will or something, but that is no different than any other un-evidenced assertion of religious faith.
What suicide CAN do is one or more of:
1) Be an unwise, permanent solution to a temporary problem (but not under 100% of circumstances)
2) Be a product of disordered thinking (but not 100% of the time)
3) Be an indirect and unfair harm to dependents, significant others, extended family (but not 100% of the time)
All suicide is not created equal. Most is irrational and a result of disordered thinking, and not well-considered and tends to ignore the needs and rights of others who will be impacted. On the other hand, some is rational and a result of very clear thinking, and when the needs and rights of others are taken into account and others are involved in the decision process (and when those involved are adult enough to be respectful of the decision process and the rights of the person considering it), may be a good decision for the person making it for themselves, and even for their loved ones.
Suicide is not "playing god" anymore than taking medical treatments to keep yourself alive is "playing god". By that logic all human survival should be left up to circumstance and not interfered with in any way, in one direction or the other. By that logic no one should drive safely, wash their hands, check expiration dates on food, or drink only from safe municipal water sources.
Suicide is a nuanced and many-faceted question and as usual, theists try to make it a simplistic black-and-white matter and then seek to control (or, failing that, shame) people outside their group in various ways when they try to make their own decisions about it.
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