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Old 05-20-2011, 09:20 AM
 
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People are racist, not religions. Some people decide to take their religion and use it as justification for racism, but you can find individuals of any religion or belief system that reject racist beliefs and you can also find people of any religion or belief system that propagate racist ideas.
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Old 05-20-2011, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Golden, CO
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People are racist, not religions. Some people decide to take their religion and use it as justification for racism, but you can find individuals of any religion or belief system that reject racist beliefs and you can also find people of any religion or belief system that propagate racist ideas.
No, some religions are racist. The racism is build into their doctrines and sanctioned practices.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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No, some religions are racist. The racism is build into their doctrines and sanctioned practices.
Religious teachings can be racist. Religious individuals can be racist. But religious bodies of people cannot be racist. You can't generalize a whole body of people as racist.

A lot of religious individuals reject the racist teachings of their religions when they themselves are not racist, and likewise many religious people interpret their religious teachings to justify racism when that's not the original intent of the teaching. Most religious people do not follow every single teaching ever put out there in their religion and most also use at least some level of personal interpretation for the teachings that they do follow.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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1. Name one thing you like about Mormons or admire about their religion.

Despite the fact that they too can be radical and idiotic -- they do seem to be friendlier and have a pretty tight community.

2. Name one thing you dislike about Mormons or object to concerning their religion.

I would have to say the story of their religion of how it came to be. South Park's episode on Mormons was fantastic and the song was even better.

Joseph Smith was called a prophet
dum dum dum dum dummm
Many people believed Joseph
dum dum dum dum dummm

Lucy Harris smart smart smart
Martin Haris dumb.

lmao
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Old 05-20-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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Religious teachings can be racist. Religious individuals can be racist. But religious bodies of people cannot be racist. You can't generalize a whole body of people as racist.
Well there is the "Christian Identity Movement" and "Esoteric Hitlerism." (EH is not an organized religion, it's a group of people who believe either Hitler was an avatar of God or was in some other way a transcendent figure)
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Old 05-20-2011, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I would have to say the story of their religion of how it came to be. South Park's episode on Mormons was fantastic and the song was even better.

Joseph Smith was called a prophet
dum dum dum dum dummm
Many people believed Joseph
dum dum dum dum dummm

Lucy Harris smart smart smart
Martin Haris dumb.

lmao
Anybody who looks to South Park for their information is dum dum dum dum dumb!
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Golden, CO
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Anybody who looks to South Park for their information is dum dum dum dum dumb!
Hey, South Park's depiction had some elements that were more accurate than what they'd teach you in Sunday School. Like Joseph burying his head in a hat with a rock in it while dictating the text of the Book of Mormon.

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Old 05-20-2011, 08:14 PM
 
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1. Like: The Book of Mormon is hilarious reading.

2. Dislike: nothing in particular.
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Old 05-20-2011, 08:24 PM
 
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Anybody who looks to South Park for their information is dum dum dum dum dumb!
I don't like South Park, and almost never watch it, but the ending of that episode I thought was pretty good. The Mormon kid made a speech that went something like "Maybe my religion seems silly and dumb to you and maybe it even is, but it's been a good thing in my life. And all I ever really wanted was to be your friend, but you couldn't look past my religion to see that. You have a lot of growing up to, so long jerkwad." And Stan or one of them says "That kid's cool." Plus the people I knew who've seen it have an almost more positive view of Mormons than they did before watching it.

I mean from what I can tell it did mock your religion, but it's nice that it also tried to say "But you know what if they're good people leave them alone about it." Which would be a nice message for many here.
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Old 05-20-2011, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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1. Like: The Book of Mormon is hilarious reading.

2. Dislike: nothing in particular.
You couldn't find one positive thing to say, so you resorted to sarcasm. Okay, I'll help you out. Here's one positive thing about the LDS Church and its members:
  • The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints provides relief and development projects for humanitarian purposes in countries all over the world. Projects operate without regard to the nationality or religion of the recipients.
  • Humanitarian service may include emergency response to natural disasters, such as an earthquake or a tsunami, or man-made disasters, such as the effects of war and famine. It may also be part of a longer-term effort to meet serious and more entrenched human needs, such as the need to alleviate disease.
  • Within hours of a disaster, the Church works with local government officials to determine what supplies and food are needed. Materials are then immediately sent to the area.
  • After urgent needs are met, the Church looks for additional ways to help with the long-term needs of the community. The Church’s approach is to help people become self-reliant by teaching skills and providing resources for a self-sustained life.
  • Donations, principally from Church members but also from people around the world, are used to make relief projects possible. One hundred percent of the donations given to the Church’s humanitarian services are used for relief efforts. The Church absorbs its own overhead costs.
  • The humanitarian services arm of the Church sponsors five ongoing global projects to help people become more self-reliant. Initiatives include neonatal resuscitation training, clean water projects, wheelchair distribution, vision treatment and measles vaccinations.
(Source: Humanitarian Services - LDS Newsroom)
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