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Old 11-10-2011, 03:03 PM
 
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:05 PM
 
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Women who CHOOSE to have sex and WANT to do so without birth control have already chosen the risks involved. It's not the baby's fault that she & a man acted irresponsibly.

Obviously, abortion is necessary for pregnant mothers who having the baby could result in the mother dying.
But DO NOT use abortion as birth control. That is sick.
Speaking of hypocrisy... your mother chose not to abort you, didn't she?
Birth control fails, situations are all different. As long as we continue to have a choice, who cares who keeps their baby and who doesn't. My Mother didn't have a choice. She got pregnant as a silly naive 19 year old who then had to marry my Father. She paid a high price.

I had a choice too, I have 2 daughters. I chose to continue with my pregnancy when the father, my boyfriend, told me he didn't want kids and to have an abortion. Off I trotted to the clinic but I decided I couldn't go through with it.

Have you had to make a choice?
 
Old 11-10-2011, 03:20 PM
 
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Birth control fails, situations are all different. As long as we continue to have a choice, who cares who keeps their baby and who doesn't.
Are you really saying, "Who cares who's baby is killed & who's baby gets to live?"

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My Mother didn't have a choice. She got pregnant as a silly naive 19 year old who then had to marry my Father. She paid a high price.

I had a choice too, I have 2 daughters. I chose to continue with my pregnancy when the father, my boyfriend, told me he didn't want kids and to have an abortion. Off I trotted to the clinic but I decided I couldn't go through with it.

Have you had to make a choice?
No, it's never been a choice for me. Although I realize some consider the options. The first time I became pregnant I was already married. Our first baby was born fine. Then I had some health problems & miscarried 3 babies - one little son was 2nd-term miscarriage - very difficult. After going to see many doctors to figure out what the problem was... even a specialist didn't help me. I researched & while I was miscarrying the 3rd time, I ran to get a blood test for progesterone which was found to be low. I had tests, but they showed no blood clot problems, yet I discovered some blood clotting disorders are untestable & so I took progesterone & baby asprin for part of the last 2 pregnancies & they went fine! So I now have 3 beautiful children!
Yes, it is a high price to have children, pregnancy, labor, adoption for mothers who choose that, & raising them. But it's more than worth it!!
As mothers, it's our responsibility to do what's best for our baby... to give them the best life possible - whether that's by our mothering or another's through adoption.
 
Old 11-10-2011, 03:24 PM
 
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As mothers, it's our responsibility to do what's best for our baby... to give them the best life possible - whether that's by our mothering or another's through adoption.
I agree with you. As long as that was our choice and not one forced upon us unwillingly.
 
Old 11-10-2011, 03:39 PM
 
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It is important to realize that many birth defects actually result in infants who die in the first year of life and sometimes painfully.

Neural tube defects (NTDs) occur in the first month of pregnancy when the structure that develops into the brain and spinal cord is forming. Normally, this structure folds into a tube by the 29th day after conception. When the tube doesn't close completely, the baby has an NTD; many babies with these defects are stillborn or die soon after birth. (Spina Bifida is one NTD)

Tay-Sachs disease is another of these conditions. Would you be able to watch your baby die a painful death after birth when an early abortion will not result in pain, but the result will still be death?

Many other defects require expensive treatments if the infant is to survive at all. The surgeries may also kill the infant. Heart defects and gastrointestinal defects are among the most common of these. These defects *may* be able to be repaired, but they also may not.

I think that it is up to the woman and her doctor with all information in hand to make the hard choice.
 
Old 11-10-2011, 05:25 PM
 
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It is important to realize that many birth defects actually result in infants who die in the first year of life and sometimes painfully.

Neural tube defects (NTDs) occur in the first month of pregnancy when the structure that develops into the brain and spinal cord is forming. Normally, this structure folds into a tube by the 29th day after conception. When the tube doesn't close completely, the baby has an NTD; many babies with these defects are stillborn or die soon after birth. (Spina Bifida is one NTD)

Tay-Sachs disease is another of these conditions. Would you be able to watch your baby die a painful death after birth when an early abortion will not result in pain, but the result will still be death?

Many other defects require expensive treatments if the infant is to survive at all. The surgeries may also kill the infant. Heart defects and gastrointestinal defects are among the most common of these. These defects *may* be able to be repaired, but they also may not.

I think that it is up to the woman and her doctor with all information in hand to make the hard choice.
I agree with everything you wrote. My best friends are a neonatalogist (a doctor specializing in infants born early, especially those with these issues) and a pediatric nurse. I have learned so much from them about these issues. They are both very much pro-choice. The nurse has been especially candid about her experiences in the PICU with these babies. She's watched many a mother sit for weeks, watching her baby die a painful death.

Without intending to sound condescending, I think there are a lot of people ignorant of this sort of thing like I was. I thought Down Syndrome and Spina Bifida were horrific, but my friend let me know that they are very mild compared to some of the things she's seen.

Thank you for providing more information on this.
 
Old 11-10-2011, 05:41 PM
 
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Women who CHOOSE to have sex and WANT to do so without birth control have already chosen the risks involved.
It's not the baby's fault that she & a man acted irresponsibly.
But we all take risks, and then try to mitigate them. We drive cars, get into accidents, then have doctors fix us. We play contact sports and do the same thing. We eat too much, then diet, or take pills to control our cholesterol.

So you can say that amount many life activities. Shall we not take steps to fix/control our health, just because we knew the risks of <whatever> before we did it?


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Obviously, abortion is necessary for pregnant mothers who having the baby could result in the mother dying.
But DO NOT use abortion as birth control. That is sick.
Speaking of hypocrisy... your mother chose not to abort you, didn't she?
I do not agree that it is sick. Imprudent maybe, but not sick.

As for hypocrisy, the decisions of a mother are not the decisions of a child, so there is no potential of hypocrisy.

As an example, my mother is religious. I am not. I do not see that there is any hypocrisy in this, as we have both made our own decisions.

It would be hypocrisy if a person campaigned against abortion, but felt free to have one themselves.
 
Old 11-11-2011, 04:28 AM
 
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"More than 82 percent of the women who responded indicated they deeply regretted their abortion decisions."
British Survey Finds Overwhelming Majority of Women Regretted Abortions | LifeNews.com



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I'mNotSorry.net &bull; Celebrating the right to choose

Also.....many women regret giving their child up for adoption.....want to ban adoption too?......because some women may be sorry about it later?
 
Old 11-11-2011, 06:06 AM
 
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I'mNotSorry.net &bull; Celebrating the right to choose

Also.....many women regret giving their child up for adoption.....want to ban adoption too?......because some women may be sorry about it later?
Sure, of course. The women chose to have sex, they should be punished by supporting a child they don't want for the next 18+ years. Isn't that the basis of anti-abortion thinking?
 
Old 11-11-2011, 06:14 AM
 
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Sure, of course. The women chose to have sex, they should be punished by supporting a child they don't want for the next 18+ years. Isn't that the basis of anti-abortion thinking?
Basically.
Even if the reluctant mother will not be raising that child as a wanted one.
But, so what, if the kid isn't raised well.Better a bad life than no life.

Better that young girls then must devote her time to caring for a kid than growing up more and preparing herself to being a better mom to potential subsequent children.....or no children, if motherhood isn't what she wants.
And before the protest begin, sure there are exceptions.....girls/womaen that become loving moms even though it had not been choice.
Sure, there are kids that overcame poor upbringings, etc etc etc.
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